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------------------------>( spaceship )>----------->spaceship--> ------------>light beam-->
2006-12-12 [Dil*]: it works on a conceptual level, so does mine, but his has 'relativity' to back it up.
2006-12-12 [Fizban]: If you fire a missile that goes the same speed you are, no faster no slower...does it ever leave the firing tube?
2006-12-12 [Dil*]: maybe, due to initial acceleration?
2006-12-12 [Fizban]: nope, because the speed of the ship is unable to impart inertia upon the missle (in this theoretical statement), therefore, the missle automatically upon firing goes the same speed as the ship. No faster, no slower.
Does it ever leave the firing tube?
2006-12-12 [Dil*]: you can't fire something out at constant speed, the speed becomes constant after initial acceleration. That's like having an object go from rest to a constant velocity, it doesn't work.
2006-12-12 [Dil*]: http://www.phy
A light beam leaving a ship and a missile leaving a ship are two different things.
2006-12-12 [Fizban]: duh,...
dil, I am representing the missile as though it were light I didn't realize you didn't get that.
I was trying to represent light in a different manner, to show how I didn't agree with the way Mr. Whatever put it, as though they would go side by side, when the light was never at it's side.
But the same thing wouldn't work, if you were ~emitting~ the light, as you were going the speed of light, from in front of you.
Because I think he copped out on that question, by putting the light next to the ship, because that eliminates several variables from the situations that merely serves to simplify it.
2006-12-12 [Dil*]: right. my diagram of light wasn't placed 'beside' the ship, light is emitted from the front of the ship, but still travels in front of the ship for the entire duraion because it is travelling at the same speed.
nobody said light was 'beside' the ship. The diagram is there to show the same speed and arriving at the same point and travelling together. Actually, I just realized the wording up there isn't too good..damn, didn't say what I meant.
2006-12-12 [Fizban]: LOL...*looks back and see's that ignored what you said about it just being a representation
Woops...hehe.
2006-12-12 [Dil*]: err, what did you not like?
2006-12-12 [Fizban]: I already stated that in details above, in the previous comments.
2006-12-12 [Dil*]: I'm not sure where you were going with that. We assumed that light could be omitted...I think this has been resolved?
2006-12-13 [Fizban]: yes, everything is resolved on my end I dunno about yours lol.
2006-12-13 [Dil*]: it has been..
2006-12-16 [IzzyKSK]: I stil think no less of you, because somebody else studied a subject more then you did.
But the light think shouldn't trow you off. Because something goes as fast as the speed of light doesn't make the question more difficult if the suddeny became light going with the speed of light.. kinda.. Okay I'm not good with words..
I think it's kinda like when you see the light as just a part of the spaceship perhaps. That the light just goes asfast as the limits of the ship will allow it.
When you run arround on a ship faster then the ship actually goes, you will not be faster att he harbor then the ship will. Even if you were faster. Kinda...
2006-12-16 [Dil*]: Uhm. What?
2006-12-17 [Fizban]: >_>''?
2006-12-17 [IzzyKSK]: Okay, I'm not english so i can't find the words I'm looking for.
Just forget it.
2007-01-14 [ceridwen]: ...I'm a dork. I referred to this when talking to Michael. I pissed him off again. But... I made a remark how at least I was getting stomped into the ground, or something to that affect. He didn't get it of course. But I thought I would share that. 'Cause I'madork.
2007-01-14 [Dil*]: lol...
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