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SSEB Pseudotime



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So, what do I mean with pseudotime? Well, I mean that this is our own personal timeline:

- I think that the whole story would fit much better if we take a timeframe based in twenty three years between the birth of Saori/Athena, and the beggining of the TV series.

-With this, the age of the Bronze Saints would be between the 21 and 26 years old...

Ok, to suport our theory, this is the:

Pseudo time line


<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> First fact: Saori Kido must be 23 years old Kurumada says she's 13, but that's hardly believable.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Second fact: The ages of all the bronze saints. Seiya must be at least 24 years old... why? Well, to be a martial artist you have to train for at leats 10 years. Imagine that! So, do you really believe a Saint can learn to use the cosmo with a simple 6-7 years? So, he must've trained for at least 15 years. That makes him a 9 years old boy at the Kido manssion, and a full grown up saint in this moment.
So, keeping this in mind, Shiryu and Hyoga must have the same age. Shun may be a little younger, about 21-22 years old. And Ikki... well, if you've ever seen the body of Ikki, his face and eyes, you must agree that he must be at least 26-28 years old! If he took care of Baby Shun while he was 5-6 y.o., he must have at least 27 years old.

Next with the Gold Saints... Let's do this in a chronological order:

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Let's begin with the first well known fact: Aioros' death. Let's keep in mind that the first fact, this is, Saori's birth, happened about 23 years ago; Aioria lived all of this while he was about 8-9 years old. Now, we have an accurate age of Aioria, this is 31-32 years more or less. We can use this as a basis for the rest of the Gold Saints.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Now, how old was Aiorios in that moment? He was a Gold Saint, he could've not been a child. But quite probably he was kind of a new Gold Saint. Ok, he was one of the best one, a prodigy. He must've had at least 20 years.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Next Saint we saw at that time was Capricorn Shura. He was a quite good gold saint, the favorite of Athena... but this must've been a title, thinking that Athena was a baby. He must've had at least 25-26 years. Now, if that happened 23 years ago, Shura must be... dead? Nah... he must be like 48-49 years old. Uhm... one of the oldest Saints, but of course one of the best. Of course, a man of 48 years old is still a perfectly healthy man, plus wise.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Now, about Saga. Aries Zion died before Athena's birth. Saga became the Pope before Athena's birth. If we follow Seiya's words, he met a nice, good man as pope and then he changed for a tyran. Why? It couldn't been Zion the one Seiya was talking about. It should've been Saga in a very good mood... or else, Seiya would've won the Pegasus cloth while he was 2 y.o. So, Saga must've been at least 23 y.o. when he killed Zion. Imagine that! He killed the Pope! So, he's really powerful. Let's give a couple of spare years for Athena's birth, and so Saga must've been about 25 y.o. when he tried to kill her. Plus 23 years (Athena's age) we have... a very old Saga. :P No, he's in his best years, about 48 y.o.
Why does they look younger than this? Hey, they are Saints! They are healthy, they are strong, they are supernatural. They must look good for their age. Hey, after all, Dohko is centuries old, and he looks quite well!

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Zion had a student, Mu. The now Gold Saint of Aries. He's quite young. He looks like. So, if we make a calculus of Zion diying while Mu was a child, (and even with that, Mu won the Aries cloth) he must've been about 7-8 years old. So, Mu must be a 30-31 years old Saint, and a quite new Saint. And after all, he was the student of the Pope, and even with his youth he must've been really powerful. Hey, even Death mask have some respect for him. But he won the cloth and almost immediatly he left to Jamil.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Now, Aldebaran. He looks mature! We don't know a lot of his history, but, just because of his looks and attitude, he's clearly older than the rest. Let's just make an aproximate, and let's give him about 49-50 years of age.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Deathmask is quite weird. He's diferent from every Saint. He does not looks like someone Zion would've accepted as a Gold Saint. But maybe, he accepted him because he was truly strong and disciplinated. But when Saga obtained the Pope sit, he allowed him to enforce his own twisted nature. He must've be more or less as old as Shura, perhaps younger, about 40-43 years old.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Shaka is a special case. After all, he's the chosen one (or the reincarnation!) of the Budah. Let's face it! He could've obtained the place of the Pope if he would've wanted to... But let's just say that he's amazingly powerful, wise and strong and so, he could've easily won a Gold Cloth at the age of 20-21, like Aioros. And for this time, he must be about 30-31 years old... he knows the sanctuary quite well, and has made a mark among the Gold Saints.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Dohko is not fair.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Miro is strong, but appearently very young. He's quite visceral, not very wise. He's more like a young guy with a lot of power and a big responsibility over his shoulders. We don't know a lot of him, but he must be like 29 y.o., and must be a pretty new Saint.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> Now, this is the tricky part: Camille. He trained Crystal and made him a VERY good SILVER Saint. And Crystal trained Hyoga... that gives a lot of time. Even if Camille started Crystal training preety young, he must be at least 42-43 years old.

<img25*0:stuff/10620_wiki_Icon%2520Hoard_962Cv3TBh53.gif> And finally, Aphrodite. But who knows? I bet he have suffered a lot of cosmetic surgeries! So, it's up to you :P
In our own point, we believe he had a... *ahem* relationship with Saga. How else could've he won a Gold Cloth? I mean, even Shun kicked his ass... without Ikki's intervention!

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2004-07-09 [Erthalos]: Yeah, that fits. Look in another hand Aioros, sagittarius saint. He's supposed to be 13 when he died !!! Younger than even Shun ! And he looked older than even Seiya !So I suppose that gold saints should be about 30 but it'd be hard to make them older because they look between 20 and 30

2004-09-06 [mendijiggli]: And let´s be honest... someone as hot as Camus can´t be a 20 YO silly guy (no offense). It´s like the wine: the older the better!!! So, Camus must be about 38... yyyuuuumiiii 

2004-09-06 [Erthalos]: 38 for Camus ? Naaaaah...Camus = french good wine...why not hehehehehehe...No, not 38, perhaps 28

2004-10-01 [mendijiggli]: OK, my personal belief is that a man shoul be older than 30 to be considered REALLY HOT, so, Camus= definetly older than 30

2004-10-01 [Erthalos]: *laugh* Really hot, and especially in his cowboy outfit... I see gold saints around 30

2004-10-12 [Moluco]: In my oun opinion, Camus must be older because I think he's Hyoga's dad, Imagine that!!!!. But what I know for shure is that the youngest one (of the golden saints) is Miro with 28 Y/O

2004-10-13 [Erthalos]: Sure, Milo is the youngest one. Still it's Mitsumada Kido who's supposed to be Hyoga's father, as well as other bronze saints...

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