[Artsy]: what happened to the comments?? o.O

[Eyelash-Wishes]: I took the comments thing away because it was taking to much room up. if anyone wants to talk with each other in the comments do it here

[Draymond]: ...I prefered having the comments in the other boxes. I mean, its pretty meager 'clean up' really...its like a liberty taken away. Also, I think the character art page might look alright with the pictures being 300 pixels wide...and you might want to downsize ugly ol' Taj there CC.

[Eyelash-Wishes]: fine i'll put it back the way it was

[Draymond]: I think just the comment boxes back would be alright. I mean, we do use them quite a bit. As for the character page...I suggest alphabetical member username order, and 300 pixel wide pics.

[Artsy]: I just put it to 200 to make the page a bit easier to navigate. I figured if you wanted to see them better, click on them. The resizing was my fault, not Chick's.

[Draymond]: Overall the visibility is reduced at 200 wide. I'll try 300 quick if there's no problem.

[Draymond]: Overall the visibility is reduced at 200 wide. 250 might work better as its half size exactly.

[Artsy]: whatever you want, i just wanted to make the page a bit easier to navigate

[Eyelash-Wishes]: thank you guys for helping out...I really appreciate it

[Draymond]: No problem, though is the alphabetization of the members in the page alright? Or would it be preferred if the two owner's charies were at the top and the rest of the members are organized alphabetically...

[Draymond]: Alright, this is the members on the art page in alphabetical order:

A passionate silence 
Crazy*chick   
Demon epona  
Draygun 
Firenze
Lady Illadriel 
Living armor
The blood angel

Here is them in order of first appearence on the shadow kingdom:

Lady Illadriel
Draygun
Crazy*Chick
A Passtionate Silence
Firenze
Living Armor
The Blood Angel
Demon Epona

Here is what they about used to be...I think:

Lady Illadriel
Crazy*Chick
Firenze
Draygun
A Passtionate Silence
Living Armor
The Blood Angel
Demon Epona

[Eyelash-Wishes]: no I don't mind what order they appear in lol

[The Dizzy Raven]: ok, guys. Here's an idea that voodoo child and I agreed with, but we wanted to know if it's alright with all of you. The idea was to restart the entire rp. Reasons are that people are leaving and the rp is slowing dramatically. (I take most of the blame). So... what do you think?

[Nevermore.]: ugh..................

[The Dizzy Raven]: things might go faster if restarted

[Nevermore.]: but we will loose everything weve done!...ugh....well if you restart i may not join again, just a forewarning

[The Blood Angel]: It would be refreshing to start. Seems to me that me and Dray like to butt heads a few times and it's even led me astray and make a character for the soul purpose to dispose of his. Also Tear's I'll be willing to have a character to hang with yours to try and make things interesting for you. :) But I would sugest if we do restart, is to completely remake new characters.

[The Dizzy Raven]: ok kool
now for the others. lol

[Draymond]: Sounds reasonable. ^^ However, I'm quite attatched the charies I have, perhaps just a time skip into the future so that we've new charies from the grown up children of previous charies. Also, relationships change...and with the conflict now, should determine future outcomes drastically as well. Yes to a restart, but at a fertile point down the timeline a few years to a decade.

[Draymond]: I vote against a total restart, we should try a different launch point before we destroy a wonderful, detailed, and labored creation.

[Nevermore.]: to be honest im not even sure if i wanna be here if we restart, i like my carries and i dont wanna be forced to change/start them again or age them..

[Draymond]: Yeah, that's true as well. There's something to be said for the youth of the more 'mortal' charies.

[The Dizzy Raven]: you guys can keep your characters. ^_^ There's no need to change them. I only changed my characters' pics for the fun of it. lol

[Nevermore.]: yeah but age will change, and i dont want it to, the relationships of the chars will change

[Nevermore.]: ok..so everyone knows, ive been thinking about it..and i dont like the time skip..no matter how short..so just a heads up, if the Time skip goes ahead, dont expect me to be RPing, i will leave..sorry, just the way it is

[Draymond]: I agree with Kitty on this, many of my charies do not have the luxury of time. Besides, by any sort of time skip time (a year even) the dragon eggs would now be great dragons...very complicated to introduce again to begin with. And if its decided that Erindor is not th victor in his quest, he'll likely be not living in the shadow castle, which takes out another one of my charies (not to mention all the others having drastic relatioship changes and children even). If there's a time skip, I'm out with Kitty.

[The Blood Angel]: *ponders* Well with a total restart you can both keep your characters, your relationships and your ages with no problem really. I don't see what the big problem is though, it's just a game and both of you are more than capable rpers to deal with this instead of just dropping out like the world's caving in.

[Nevermore.]: no...just..no, i dont care, fuck that shit. Im annoyed with this, im gone, im sticking to my ground, i will let the owners deside what their doing, but atleast you all know what will happen either way

[The Blood Angel]: Ah well I'll certainly miss ya on this wiki.

[Draymond]: Total restart? Only thing that does is diffuse the climaxing conflict that's going on now. It'll happen again I assure you, its just delaying the inebidable.

[Nevermore.]: i wouldnt even bother joining again if there was a total restart..its just no point, not when i (atleast me..others im sure) have worked hard on their cars. and as soon as conflict arises in an rp that supposed to BE ABOUT A WAR BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL...its restarted or but forward..no way...sorry

[Artsy]: Can we please keep our charies in one place at a time? at this point i vote a total restart. We're off subject and now that you have practice with your charies you may actually know how to use them.

[Draymond]: LA, for the most part, I value your opinion. Though I stand by my original 'vote'. Things are a bit busily disorganized, it comes back together.

[Artsy]: You're still altering the story, submitting it to your will and you can't do that.

[The Blood Angel]: Dray it's not hard to keep your character one place at the a time. This wiffs of godmodding and really if you were to change Erindor you should really pull him out of all storylines before changing a thing, after all the ST's have to aprove your changes before they are put in place.

[Draymond]: I've been talking with [Eyelash-Wishes]...I know how to conduct this business. If she decides that my idea is not acceptable, then I shall not continue it. Simple as that. Besides, if it would help placate you, I can put up Erindor's prior bio until my changes are complete. 

LA, anyone who RP's alters the story, can you be more specific as to what I can't do?

[The Blood Angel]: I believe what Living Armour is trying to say is that you are overstepping the unwritten boundaries that most RPers follow. But don't that as fact, I don't want to be acused of putting words in someone's mouth if those words are not her intention.

[Draymond]: If you are unsure of what she would have to say why are you saying anything at all in her place? Though please, do explain in your opinion what else I might cross with what I'm proposing.

[The Blood Angel]: Well the redux of your character seems to show that you are fine talloring him to be even stronger but we shall see what you have done when that is published.

Being in two places at once seems that you want to get your fingers into all the pies to try and have dominance with your characters. Why not get one of your many characters to go to the Shadow Castle rather than Erindor who should be preocupied at the moment.

[Draymond]: I'm rendering the bio of Erindor so I can dispell the grey areas. Its one of my elder (and therefor vauger) bios, a renovation will be more helpful to bring important details into focus.

Dominance with my characters? *chuckles* What would the point of that be? If anything I like to keep myself open with options in case a character is locked up somewhere. Sebastion's abilities have been uncontested, and therefore I saw fit to graph about a degree of them to another character. 

Anyways, until further notice Erindor's bio will remain as it was, and the Erindor currently roaming the castle is Sebastion. Look under his bio, he's a changling...ect. Voila

[Artsy]: I'm sorry I wasn't on to explain ^^'' What I mean is, if one part of the rp is ahead (in time, such as days ahead, or even hours, I know how Dray likes keeping track so he understands what I'm talking about) then you, Dray, tend to put your chary there. That is helpful if a chary is stuck, but it's also confining. It means the story has to follow to lead up logically to that time, and what happened there, instead of being free. Plus this doesn't teach the stuck person patience at all. It's.. somewhat irritating.

[Draymond]: It is also irritating when nothing is going on as well. I enjoy flourishes of activity, not drawn on stagnant periods. Though I'm still not seeing why I simply can't do what I wish with my characters (I do see where I can't do something with them if it negatively affects others in an interactive basis) because, they're my characters, would you not find it fair for one to dictate what you can't do when it has not been proven to be negative thing? ...Lest really everyone is so annoyed with a certain character or two of mine that no one would wish to role play with him. What would be the balm to this 'sore'?

[The Blood Angel]: The game is hard enough to follow as it is, that is why people should stick to one area at the time to save confusion. That is the only reason there is to it.

[Artsy]: That's true iron. If charies are just in one place at a time, it will make the rp easier to follow.

And I will admit, Dray, that you may put your characters where ever you wish, but might I suggest one or two conditions?

1) If you rp somewhere and then somewhere else without a 'movement' of your character, then whoever you are trying to rp with has the right to say they are not there or simply do not wish to rp with your chary.
and 2) Should they have no desire to rp with you or else will not rp with you for what ever reason, please delete the attempted post.

EX.
Erindor, in need of help constructing, went to ask Keerun for assistance. He knocked on the smaller man's door.

No answer. Keerun was not in his room. (if there is no more explanation here, please delete both of these posts.) He was taking a walk outside. (if this is posted, please delete both and say that 'erindor found keerun walking outside')

see how that works better? A bit cleaner I think...

[Draymond]: Actually for once I'm more placated by Ross's responce than yours LA.

Besides, everyone has the open chance to RP with me or not, I don't force them. So, that would be your own personal bone, which is adding to the heap already present, we need not that.

[The Blood Angel]: What the FUCK! LOL Dray, placeted with my barbed tongue? wow.

[Draymond]: I know! XD Its a good thing though. LoL

[Draymond]: I liked your statement, and I agree with it. Many times I conjure grandious and impractical ideas. At the time they seem good, but in application its messy. 

[Draymond]: [Eyelash-Wishes], I've changed the owner of Outside the Shadow Castle History to yourself, along with the coresponding history pages 7-13. Its easier than having to decipher or remember passwords.

[The Dizzy Raven]: I'm sorry for my absence... *sigh* and I'm sorry that so many things r going wrong here... anything I can do?

[Draymond]: Its better if the vampire stays in its coffin.

[The Dizzy Raven]: ok

[Synirria]: Oooooooooooooo...I wanna join...

[The Dizzy Raven]: of course ^^ if u want 2.

[Synirria]: Instead of traveler, can I put gypsy? There close to the same thing.

[The Dizzy Raven]: sure ^^

[Synirria]: Sweet.Thanks!

[The Dizzy Raven]: yw ^^

[Chaotix Palidien]: i am the fabled chaotix palidien  >.>

[The Dizzy Raven]: lol hi ^^

[Araglas]: Can anyone join?

[Synirria]: *Gasp* Did we start...Im so behind! Merr...sleep!

[Eyelash-Wishes]: no we haven't properly started yet

[Araglas]: Would it be ok if I joined?

[Eyelash-Wishes]: Sure!
don't see why not. lol

[Araglas]: Sweet! ^_^

[The Dizzy Raven]: ^_^ lol

[Nuit Darksin]: Oye! Can I join please?

[The Dizzy Raven]: of course ^^

[Araglas]: ok....*stretches* Been working on my chgaracter for this, ^_^

[Eyelash-Wishes]: cool!

[Araglas]: lol thanks, is there a limit to how many characters we can have?

[Eyelash-Wishes]: nah not really!

[Araglas]: Cool! ^_^ lol I think I'll have a nuetral and an evil, or do they both have to be one alliance?

[Eyelash-Wishes]: no you can have one in each if you want :)

[Araglas]: YAY!!!!!!!! ^_^ lol, and I have the perfect combination! ^_^ lol

[The Dizzy Raven]: actually, I think there should b a limit. Last time we had too many characters to keep track of. I'm thinking maybe a limit of four characters or less, but what do you think [Eyelash-Wishes]?

[Draymond]: Mmm, if I'd make a suggestion? I'd suggest five. When you've dragon riders they're paired with a dragon, automatically taking up two of the four positions. Or perhaps two dragon riders and an extra perhaps nuetral character. 

[Araglas]: Well I'll have my two, but I agree with both, ^_^

[Eyelash-Wishes]: yeah a 4/5 limit sounds perfect.

[Araglas]: Dang, gotta get a new pic for my evil guy....as soon as I do that, I'm done!

[Draymond]: When do you want charies in before RPing? This evening? I could have charie sheets in by morning your time.

[Eyelash-Wishes]: just whenever you can get it done dray :)

[Araglas]: Yay pic is found~! ^_^ *does happy dance*

[Eyelash-Wishes]: awesome...that reminds I need to finish a few of my characters!

[Araglas]: heehee ^_^

[Araglas]: Ok, I have finished my characters, do I go ahead and post them or what?

[Eyelash-Wishes]: send them to me or lady

[Araglas]: ok ^_^

[Eyelash-Wishes]: there your characters are up!

[The Dizzy Raven]: ok then that sounds alright, Draygon and miss Rebel. wow we have a lot better characters now than b4 XD

[Araglas]: YAY!!! My characters are up!~!

[Draymond]: Took a looksie at your charies, looks like its going to be an enjoyable story! ^^

[Synirria]: My character is done, finally

[Araglas]: ^_^

[Draymond]: My characters are finished. The links are messaged to you Lady Illadriel, and you Miss R.

[The Dizzy Raven]: ok ^^
wit whose characters r u mentioning in ur first posrt, Dray?

[Araglas]: ^_^ Can't wait to start

[The Dizzy Raven]: lol me neither
well, u can start now if you intend. I mean, the rp is beginning now

[Araglas]: Really?

[The Dizzy Raven]: yeah ^^

[Araglas]: Cool ^_^

[Illona]: Um are you still letting people Join?

[The Dizzy Raven]: Yes, but we can't have a lot of new characters. One or two should do it

[Illona]: I was just going to make one but I donno...rethinking if I want to cause Im always busy with work and stuff

[The Dizzy Raven]: Well, it's your choice. I'm not going to force you of course ^_^ but if you can't because of work I can understand. Just do what you will ^_^ Whatever is convenient for you

[The Blood Angel]: Hamam now has a picture yo!

[Draymond]: Fierce!!! 

[The Dizzy Raven]: awesome! I have to check it out!

[The Blood Angel]: you better! *Wags fist*

[The Dizzy Raven]: lol what are you talking about?

[The Blood Angel]: I don't know! *shrugs*

[The Dizzy Raven]: lol ^_^

[The Blood Angel]: I need to post soon. sorry not been feeling up to it recently.

[The Dizzy Raven]: no, it's fine ^^ no worries.

[Draymond]: We're ready for the Zellorah delegates in the Naran Empire page.

[The Dizzy Raven]: alright. But it sucks now because I won't be able to rp a whole lot. I was just told that i can't be on too much longer. :(

[Artsy]: *peeks around*

[The Dizzy Raven]: hiya! ^_^

[Artsy]: been a while...

[The Dizzy Raven]: yeah no kidding.
this place is still runing, but slowly

[Artsy]: no way.. it's still running? am i not watching any more???

[The Dizzy Raven]: No offense but... it kinda sounded like sarcasm :(
but... yeah

[Artsy]: What? oh, no! I'm sorry, I didn't mean for it to. I was honestly surprised... I thought it had stopped or something. ^^''

[The Dizzy Raven]: lol that's ok. and I'm sorry for saying that... it's just... recently, I've been a bit touchy because of personal issues :'(

[Araglas]: *hugs*

[The Dizzy Raven]: *hugs*

alright, guys. Here's the news. I'm not going to be active on elftown except for the roleplays that are in major need of my assistance. this one is one of them. :)

[Draymond]: *eyetwitch* What's the scoop? What happened? Is everything alright?

[The Dizzy Raven]: yeah, everything's fine. lol :D it's just after all of the rolplays are finished I'm off of elftown :\

[Draymond]: ...Why?

[The Dizzy Raven]: I'll still be on to answer messages and help out though. I just won't be taking part in a whole bunch of activities 'cause I need to focus on really important things

[The Dizzy Raven]: Alright, does anyone by chance have any suggestions for me? I'm getting back into my roleplaying/inspiration (want to write) mood. And I have been for a while. I just can't figure out what to do.

[Araglas]: well a good thing to do is read what we already have down, just read it, take it in, and then let yourself go from there.

[The Dizzy Raven]: I'll try lol ^^'

[Araglas]: ok we are here to help!

[The Dizzy Raven]: thanks :D

[Draymond]: This wonderful creation is dragging its wheels. :/

We need to do something about this. ><

[Artsy]: o.O

[The Dizzy Raven]: you're right, Dray. :/
I just can't think of what to do.

[Araglas]: I am BACK!!!!

[The Dizzy Raven]: YAYZ!!!! :D *super duper hugs you*

[Araglas]: ^_^ *glomps baCK*

[Draymond]: Of what to do? Post? That's always a start. LoL See if you can convince Eyelash to come back for the Zellorah kingdom. ^^

[Araglas]: bum bum B UM

[The Dizzy Raven]: XD It's a bum! Run for the hills!... it's stinky...

[Araglas]: lol

[The Dizzy Raven]: :3

[Araglas]: lol I has the magic the gathering card editor and I is having fun!

[The Dizzy Raven]: lol that's awesome

[Araglas]: hehe it is! ^_^ Im turning all my friends into cards..and once I figure out how to share them I will post them ^_^

[The Dizzy Raven]: haha that's funny :3 are you giving them special powers and attributes?

[Araglas]: lol oh yea! Nothing to wild now, but some are too good to pass up

[The Dizzy Raven]: haha awesome :D

[Araglas]: yup!

[The Dizzy Raven]: ^_^

[Araglas]: <3

[The Dizzy Raven]: hehe <3 Yay! It's a heart party!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Whoot!!!! *dances randomly*

[Araglas]: lol <#[No ending >!!! Fix!]

[The Dizzy Raven]: XD!!!!!!!!

[Araglas]: lol I lose

[The Dizzy Raven]: poor thing lolz

[Draymond]: ...

BALLS

[The Dizzy Raven]: LOTSO BALLS!!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! *bored. don't ask*

[Araglas]: BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLSSS~~

[The Dizzy Raven]: YAY Balls XD *perverted mind, thinking about all kinds of forms of what "balls" could stand for* ^^"

[Draymond]: Balls...they're not just a good idea, they're the law. ^^

:P

[The Dizzy Raven]: XD!!! yes, totally. lmao

*wants to say something immature and totally random, but can't because of younger site users* @.@ LOL

[Araglas]: I think we are almost ready to shut this down and revamp and then make DLV2!!

[The Dizzy Raven]: awesome :)

wasn't my shade supposed to have a battle with Dray's chara... or was it for the DLV2?

[Draymond]: If you're talking about Fanta and Evo, that already happened. :D

[Araglas]: lol it ended in an amazing battle, but for some reason your amazing shade is still in shadow kingdom lol

[The Dizzy Raven]: XDDDDDD!!!!! oh ok. I forgot that i gave you permission to do stuff with him. @.@

[Araglas]: oooh lol

[Araglas]: Time to redo and revamp and get this baby ready for the second generation!! ^_^

[Draymond]: Agreed. Few loose ends to tie up in Zellorah. MANDY!!!!!

[Araglas]: MANDY!! WE NEED YOU!! lol

[Draymond]:

MAND-EH!!!

[Araglas]: XD lol oh....I just saw her dairy...she had to put her dog down...poor girl...

[Draymond]: I know...I messaged her about it. Such a saaaad sad October.

[Araglas]: it is. :(

[The Dizzy Raven]: ........dies....... X.X I haz been shouteded at


secretly hating october. only thing I like about october is Halloween.

[Araglas]: I need a like button for liking october lol

[Draymond]: Not this October. We're just blaming the month for a series of unfortunate and tragic events that have transpired during its reign thusfar.

[Araglas]: argh...I didn't mean October, I meant Halloween...October is not a good month for anyone. But Halloween is a blast.

[Eyelash-Wishes]: Totally forgot about this RP and that I was part owner! ^^ lol

[Araglas]: Hehe its all good :) We's gonna revamp and get things going again! lol

[Draymond]: *tumbleweed*

Blast ><

[Araglas]: Lol don't worry, we'll get her back...well I guess this is a him since its Dark Lord's V..lol

[Eyelash-Wishes]: ok lets get this thing up and running again! :D

[The Dizzy Raven]: working on it now :)

[Eyelash-Wishes]: is this RP still currently running or is it finished?

[The Dizzy Raven]: it's still running. lmao. I just killed off one of my characters. ^^; Trying to kill a bunch off so i can bring my newer characters in for the sequel.

[Araglas]: *nodnod* We is all trying XD

[The Dizzy Raven]: lol

[The Dizzy Raven]: I like cheese

[The Dizzy Raven]: eyelash wishes!!! Are you still playing!? :D

[The Dizzy Raven]: I think we plan on keeping the sequel here

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[The Dizzy Raven]: