How far does the golden apple roll?
You decide.

2005-03-09 [Amtharnis]: Of course, you are aware that the golden apple you just threw in the garbage is the symbol of Discordia (the Roman name for the greek goddess Eris)? One of my heroes said that to dissent and to challenge is to be patriotic. I agree with this aspect of Discordism. It might be less stressful, but should you agree with someone for the sake of harmony? People might like you more, but are you truly a good friend to them by telling them what they want to hear, to let them stay in their comfort zone?

2005-03-09 [cunning_b]: ah tis but a symbol tho..... and hey eris would probably it amusing :)..... and the comfort zone thing i agree with.... providing your not just arguing for the sake of argument...

2005-03-09 [Amtharnis]: If you go back and read the reason I gave for my own dislike of violence and why I think it is wise not to succumb to anger, you might realise that I actually do not enjoy conflict... but unfortunately I do not seem capable of being able to avoid it. I think I am argumentative, but I don't think that is necessarily because I enjoy it. There is a reason.

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: Point one for Cunning_B... If you're arguing for the sake of argument, then you're just a fuckhead. If you're playing Devil's Advocate for the sake of challenging your friends, even after they request less argumentative conversation, then you're just a fuckhead. Eris is laughing at you. She clears her nostrils in your general direction. Take that golden apple, fools.

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: I think this is one of the best wikis I've ever seen, by the way. I mean... LOOK! We're actually TALKING! About ... about... IDEAS!! :D

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: And Amtharnis: Don't ever ask someone to go back and read through something you've said in the past. It's asking for argument and it's expecting a lot from your audience. Present the idea again, in real time, in your own words, again, if it is worth mentioning, if it is worth sharing.

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: Anything worth saying is worth saying twice. But mind the context and don't dwell in the past.

2005-03-10 [Amtharnis]: If I went up to Adolf Hitler and said, "I really think you shouldn't murder millions of jews," would have I been arguing for the sake of argument? If I said to George Bush, "I don't think you should invade Iraq," would that be arguing for the sake of argument? No, it would be expressing my feelings on a subject. I do not expect someone to agree with my opinions, and I don't call them fuckheads if they disagree with me.

2005-03-10 [Amtharnis]: Well, actually, I probably have. When people feel strongly about something, discussions can become heated. So there, I even disagree with myself. Perhaps I am a devil's advocate afterall *escorts himself to the dungeons* Amtharnis, you are banished! Woah, I am benny shed - benny shed forever!

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: I didn't call you a fuckhead. You assume too much. I called people who do argue and play devil's advocate for the sake of argument, fuckheads.

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: If you think you fall into that category and thus deserve that title, that's your trip, not mine.

2005-03-10 [cunning_b]: ..... whos benny shed?

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: Telling Hitler or Bush to not kill other people isn't quite the same as telling me not to be angry. My anger affects only me. Their hatred affects millions. It's a whole different ballpark. An entirely different game.

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: benny shed banished bani shed

2005-03-10 [cunning_b]: oh... ok :).... and are you to still arguing? ah well.... hugs all round then *hug* :)

2005-03-10 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: *punches you in the face* just for shits and giggles, as long as we're picking apart each other's symantics, we may as well turn this into a good ol' downhome brawl.

2005-03-11 [cunning_b]: right youve asked for it..... *pokes your nose*

2005-03-11 [Amtharnis]: In Romeo and Juliet, Romeo gets benny shed for disturbing the peace. In one of the movie adaptions of the play, the Prince of Verona says, 'Romeo, thou art benny shed!" and Romeo later weeps, "Woah, I am benny shed... benny shed!"

2005-03-11 [Amtharnis]: I've always wanted to use that line. I am happy now *bites golden apple* Oh fff...

2005-03-11 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: *Nelson laugh* HA ha

2005-03-11 [Amtharnis]: Doh!