How far does the golden apple roll?
You decide.

2005-03-04 [Amtharnis]: Maybe there is no right or wrong, but everything has its consequence. If you make decisions without considering the effects of those decisions, or ignoring them, then that is your choice. So don't cry 'Oh poor me, the world is against me, it is everyone elses fault that my life is so fucked,' when you yourself learn how discordant the world can be when it doesn't let you have it all your own way.

2005-03-04 [nokaredes]: But there's no way to see all the consequenses of just one action, and every decision affects millions of others. Even small decisions will affect you and other people.

2005-03-04 [Amtharnis]: That is true, but it is like driving a car. You can't possibly know every bump and turn, so it is a constant process of decision making - monitoring and correcting your speed and direction. If you close your eyes and press the accelerator flat to the floor, you will crash pretty quickly.

2005-03-04 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: but it'll be a helluva ride! :D THE MORE TWISTS AND TURNS THE BETTER!!!

2005-03-04 [nokaredes]: Nothing ever gets anywhere. The earth keeps turning round and gets nowhere. The moment is the only thing that counts.

2005-03-04 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: Isn't it strange that more people don't sense that?

2005-03-04 [Amtharnis]: That must be the philosophy that a lot of Multi-National Corporations use. It doesn't matter about the future, we'll exploit all of our resources now. But in an Estate in England 300 years ago, someone planted a plantation of oak trees, and these trees were left for 300 hundred years before they were harvested. You might live in the moment, but you are probably enjoying the fruits of other people's foresight, or perhaps the consequences of other people's lack of foresight. It'd be interesting to see whether you will keep your eyes closed. I have a suspiscion you are planning a destination other than in the ditch the wrong way up.

2005-03-04 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: Who is this "you" you so boldly address?

2005-03-04 [Amtharnis]: Who is the you that you accuse of so boldly addressing you as you?

2005-03-04 [Amtharnis]: But it can be addressed to anybody who says they intend to drive with their eyes closed.

2005-03-06 [nokaredes]: Did you know there's a member named [Tri-X]?

2005-03-06 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: yes

2005-03-06 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: Don't try to piss me off please. I'm already stupid enough to allow people that itense responsibility. Don't take advantage of it. I don't like the way you seem to talk down to your audience.

2005-03-06 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: It's possible I'm just in a bad mood... no.. no.. I'm not. I'm actually in a really good mood. That's why I'm not diggin your vibes.

2005-03-06 [Amtharnis]: Perhaps you should learn to give the kind of respect that you expect people to give you. I was only trying to contribute to the discussion, to which you responded in a dismissive and petulant way. That did little to impress me, so perhaps that is why I seem to talk down to you - as a response to your behaviour. Do you think you can preach discordia and not expect to be challenged? Banish me for my dissent then, for no matter how pissed off you might be, profanities like piss and fuck run off me like water on a ducks back and do little to harm me. Just tell me now to leave this discussion and never come back, and I will be satisfied.

2005-03-08 [LeafyGreenPuddle]: I'm not aiming to do anything directly to anyone.

2005-03-08 [cunning_b]: woah..... i think everybody heres getting a little stressy..... hmmmmm time to lower the tone.... anybody for dancing naked in the streets.....* strips naked and runs out the door *........

2005-03-08 [cunning_b]: oh and no more stressyness amtharnis.... or ill have to do something really nasty....like....like.....put a sultana in your hair!..... i willl you know.... its a scary prospect isnt it....

2005-03-09 [Amtharnis]: *throws him the golden apple* Tell that to the goddess, Cunning_B.

2005-03-09 [cunning_b]: ohhh a goddess.... ive never met one of those bafore :)..... but hey im alright with out the golden apple *tosses apple in bin*.... there not so good to eat :P hurt your teeth and all that!

2005-03-09 [Amtharnis]: Of course, you are aware that the golden apple you just threw in the garbage is the symbol of Discordia (the Roman name for the greek goddess Eris)? One of my heroes said that to dissent and to challenge is to be patriotic. I agree with this aspect of Discordism. It might be less stressful, but should you agree with someone for the sake of harmony? People might like you more, but are you truly a good friend to them by telling them what they want to hear, to let them stay in their comfort zone?