2005-08-03 [Lothuriel]: I have learned my lesson the hard way. If I find out who leaked it I will not care for the reason why....they will pay

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: and coming from my mouth, that's saying a lot *lol* anyhow, yes i think we need to collect trustworthy artists, poets and writers, and just start a secret Elftown. or as we know it, The Black Arrow, the hidden community of Elftown ^_^ The Black Arrow, now in Sherw--- I mean Elftown-wood :P

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: *gives Loth her Great Axe which is actually to big for her to lift*

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: yes - i think also if you draw attention to yourself they'll watch you more random checks etc... we need to band together- linn did you see the changes in the pledges? do they work

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: hold *scurries off to the pledges*

2005-08-03 [Lothuriel]: I see.

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: also marc- what do you think we can do to keep us hidden- i would also reccomend do not mention the dark arrow in emails- use something else in it's place and delete those emails that post links to us

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: actually loth- working with servers and databases there is nothing really you can hide if your info is there - it isbasically open to somebody- that is why i put very little about me, my family there- it lets me keep somebit of myself- even regualar emails can be read and checked- yahoo etc....

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: ehhh i believe the 3arrow has some minor spelling fuzz (and iam not even english :P) hmz never can be to sure *posts Hellhounds at the gate* ok lets settle it like this then: the ONLY time our link is mentioned is IN THE 3 STEP INVITE and there only.

2005-08-03 [TheRogue]: deleted the comments about what happened today in the wiki. I will delete my message to Ariandra as well. I agree. they 'spy' on anyone.

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: bah iam a iny tiny blonde little girl. ff course i dont post personal info around the net >_<

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: ...told you they were the Swedish Maffia ^_^

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: well one thing I've worried about in the warning sign is the fact that it has the black arrow with the red feathers...seeing our houses with the red arrows it should be easy for someone to put two and two together and I'm afraid that might compromise things but how do you feel about it Travs

2005-08-03 [Lothuriel]: Well, they carried it too far with me this time. I will find out who did it. There is a matter of legality here..they have crossed the line. 

2005-08-03 [TheRogue]: the problem with keeping the DA hidden is that in order to grow we have to inform people. As soon as you do that, you are compromising security. I can't talk right now because i'm with the kids tonight

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: the 3 arrows is for us though we need to know we are there- and i think if we ask only those that want to part than we should be ok there - right now going through my messages

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: (good luck with the kids) yes, but as it are invites, and all will be well thought over by attendants (me and unknown person) and the departmentheads, well, it would be darn shitty if not ONE of us would find something nasty about a person right?

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: you know trav,rog (mind you for shortening the names, its a sign of friendship :p) we can only try our best. and they might know "we are there" but then they still might not "know where" like with Robin Hood :) *ok i need to quit the Robin-stuff i know*

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: well...The idea hopefully is that there will be no kills in our house y'see...we want to make Elftown better and we want to discipline...not punish...it's a bit of a difference

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: see...for me anyways...I don't want to go looking for fights in darkalleys...I just want to nourish the light within Elftown :)

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: *holds a tiny candle* i know *goes to light a dark alley* what are the kills about anyway? my headache tormented head missed that yesterday

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: well from what I understand you put up a kill i.e. the skull with the arrow for such and such number of people that were banned from elftown due to your vigilance. Ah ideally...we we have none. Realistically however is another story :)

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: hmmz *desides that she might just want to achieve one kill. just for the sill of it O.o'* iam wierd i know ^_^

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: we can pull that if you like since we are moving into another direction

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: hmz anyhow, iam off to business again *skips off to the pledges page*

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: I want to emphasize the good I see in Elftown...if the good can grow there will be no room for the bad....Make Elftown an unpleasant place for those who abuse it. Kind of like Aikido :) turn the enemy's blow against him

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: it has been cleaned- to the good we create - yet in secrecy we live- a haven of security

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: aimee i asked shadow no response yet

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: like ro--- ok ill shut up ;)

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: man I'm feeling inspired now ^_^ I think I have the perfect description to put in my house now and it's purpose ^_^

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: good get it going

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: and robin hood i sok

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: wel go go go ! *pushes igorina* oh and trav can i have the pass for 3arrow, cause there are some nasty typo's ;)

2005-08-03 [TheRogue]: well, the kill thing.. there isn't an icon for those of us who were the actual dealers of death... ;) I dont know how many people ive banned..

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: hmmm *looks at the vast land of little stonecrusefixes* lets not count them out shall we ;)

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: Loreilly doesn;t get alot of internet time I think I talk to her a lot on IM if I see her I will mention that. And since she has a kind of busy offline life I will ask her if she wants to be my second or scribe...scribe might allow her more offline time :)

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: hehehe You're a cutey Linny ^_^ glad you are here!

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: posted in the pledges-

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: what oh the pass right ^_^ *bows* glad to be your court jester igorina ;)

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: tat's cool aimee

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: Hah! I'm talking to her now...just let her know what was up...she should be on and replying before too long

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: wonderful - i'll send her on if she responds

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: gah *needs to learn first names cause you keep calling them by that* :P

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: ok linn has gone through the pledges- we need to go through her notes and make some approvals

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: thank you ^_^ sides ive hopped to links (art/photo/rpg i am in- links) that were on those bios. the quick over look seemed quite pleasant ^_^

2005-08-03 [travs the bean]: now the key is can we trust them:)

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: well for the ones ive put up (yur/zep/melc) i am fairly sure that we can, because they are all TEBers and ive actually spoken with them a lot about elftown and the town going down so to say

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: sides, the latter two live within kicking-distance ;)

2005-08-03 [Igorina]: okay DA members I have written a quicky description of my house. I'll be refining it later but initially tell me how it sounds

2005-08-03 [Linn Scarlett]: woki, hey guys i'am off to bed, i dont know in what limbo zone you are, but its past 2 here by far (IN THE NIGHT) so iam going to do some zzzzzz-en

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: good night linn- it's 5 here

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: with the change in focus i would also like to change the description in this page talk a little more about rebuilding a town within a tow to hide

2005-08-04 [Igorina]: Rogue could you create a ghost house for Yellow Arrow? LoReilly suggested the name Drops of Twilight ^_^

2005-08-04 [Igorina]: I think the idea Travis that you had of giving out roses to suitable houses would be great...we could perhaps give them out via ghost houses...perhaps actually we should make two ghost houses...one for that purpose and one to warn perps

2005-08-04 [Igorina]: Shadowy rogues giving out roses to those ladies and gentlemen we find fair and handsome ^_~ we want to encourage the good we see and come down hard on the darkness

2005-08-04 [TheRogue]: something we haven't thought about yet.. when you use the 'ghost' house.. and perhaps the member reports the house.. guards will IP check them and see who's logging into that account..

2005-08-04 [Igorina]: darrr...you've got a point there Rogue...so we can't use them to do warnings...but can we use them for distributing awards?

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: i agree with the rogue it makes things a little tricky on warnings- but the rose aspect might work and other honors and awards- search out those that do good- and love them for it

2005-08-04 [Igorina]: exactly

2005-08-04 [Igorina]: perhaps then we should only use the houses as a cover to find people? Personally I wouldn;t mind doing a sting operation with our ghost house <_< catch the pervs and report their arses to the guards

2005-08-04 [Igorina]: " like OMG I aim hott mesge mee l33t!!!! " *rolls eyes* perfect description in my opinion

2005-08-04 [TheRogue]: well, there was an incident where one [Paul Doyle] 'infiltrated' elftown as a 16 year old girl, so he could catch pedos and what not, and that went REALLY well with the muckamucks. All it did was discredit him further...the problem is we don't have any real ammunition to do anything about it and not get caught.. the right incentive, Hedda would find the wikis, and destroy them all and probably nuke all of us, just for being annoying.

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: *sharpens pitchforks* we will be prepared when that happens. side note: cant we make our own comunittie? like cathugg, writersco, baltbalt, elf12 etc

2005-08-04 [TheRogue]: in order to do that, we would need a server with a bunch of memory and storage space, the program that Hedda uses (created), and someone who knows how to program, a domain and web host who can host the site, etc.. it's a big undertaking but we are looking into it right now.

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: oh yeah i forgot >_<

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: but i mean, we could start out small and always expend ^_^

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: so for now no stings - i think we should create a gathering place and when the new place is ready make it work

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: ehhh *lost me*

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: sorry linn just some plotting going on:)

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: its ok ^_^ ill try to understand (aside from me acting up mature, i still have a 17 year old brain ok? :P dont use too much difficult words, english isnt my native :) )

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Hey all, guessing most of you know who I am, invited by [Linn Scarlett] (as you also no doubt know)... and er, am here. To help out hopefully :) Not quite sure what else to say just yet, but I'm working my way through the pages...

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: i understand sorry linn:) welcome shoto - what do you do best my friend:) skill wise and such

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Well probably not what linn did (is thick for not realising sooner), but apart from that... most things. I was employed by the council to watch wikis apparantly, so I guess I can't be bad at it.

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: hey shoto, can you ehh recall where you heard about us? (paranoia people here) :P

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: well iguess that works in our favor;) well what can you offer us:) some draw, some write we have rpgr's here a guard or two and we like to be hidden:)

2005-08-04 [TheRogue]: ack.. you HEARD about us Shoji?

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: I was nearly about to ask on the other page linn... trust me, it was waaay back (far more than 10 pages, heh, I've read every comment on that wiki. It's probably more like in the first 10 pages). Some mention of making a badge with a crossbow on for a kind of 'take elftown back' secret service. Then I started to see your 3 arrow badges around :P Don't worry, I doubt anyone else caught on, or remembers it.

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Oh and no links mentioned whatsoever. I suspect you hadn't put this place together even back then.

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: lol we've been around since the beginning of teb my friend:) just didn't get moving again until now

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: As for what I can offer, I draw, but usually dragons :P I don't know much about rps (ok, that's what I can't do). I report a lot (obviously), have a rather good knowledge of rules, why they're there, etc, if I do say so myself. I'm currently in the middle of a big project to edit some official wikis, so you might find me good for that kinda thing here too. Hmm, anything I've missed out?

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: The beginning? Ohhh... need to improve my detective skills then.

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: gheheh you are head over heels in it now ;)

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: *shakes head* Rats! Heh. Don't worry, I can keep a secret. I watch a lot more wikis than most people probably suspect ;)

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: hmz yeah i keep running into people too everywhere (and they keep running into me, or so they claim) so no! iam not stalking you (maybe i am but no) i just hop around a lot ;)

2005-08-04 [TheRogue]: by the way.. Shoji.. = Sho-G just thought it sounded like a nice nick ;)

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: well of the things we want to do is create some good wiki pages and help with maintain this place- as well as searching out well done wiki's and such to reward- if you are good at maintianing than you would fit my clan or the yellow clan- if it is to organize patrolling to reward or such i would say red or black the green is also big in maintnance but are undergoing changes so where do you go....hmmmmm

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Hehe... neat. I assumed you were talking about me ;) Heh, and call me what you like. Shotokan's the style of karate I study, gal is pretty self explanatory. Back when I joined elftown I really couldn't be bothered to think of a deep, meaningful, hidden-meaning name. (gee and now look where I've got myself into)

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: i believe you would be an asset to the black arrow clan- and helping rogue come up with a focus for that house - as what your houses purpose is and how you want to accomplish it- so that i think is where you will start:) welcome our home is yours

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Edit: fantastic :) I hope I can live to the expectations of you guys.

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: ghehe hence where mine came from (Linn is actually my true nickname to friends :P)

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: than you fit the black clan very well :) very well and rogue needs the help:)

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: By the way in case anyone's wondering, haven't posted 'the mark' yet because my house is in a deadlock. It could use some reorganising, but that might take a while.

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: i understand and in your position it might not be wise:)

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Oh and the black information on this page and on the actual page don't match up :P (I'm so pedantic when it comes to things like that, but don't want to be confused on my first day)

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: maybe i will make a special mark, one for those in govt that belong to us, one that is tiny

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: we're in the process of cleaning up

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: *picks up broom* hmz maybe you can make an alternative badge for our councilcoats ^_^

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: a hidden gift art from trav or so ^_^ but is actually a mark *shhh*

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: thinking it out :)

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Oh I can always tiny-ize it if I need to. The house is just on the to-do list (particularly when they release the final limits). As for being kicked of the council or not, it'll hardly be the end of the world. (Edit: did that sound a bit too cavalier?)

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: look trav made this for me...but secretly a hidden mark *lol* would be funny ;)

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Apologies for being offline for a while... er, dinner called. But, so I wondered, where/with what do you want me to start? Profile? Doing anything in particular?

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: set your profile up in your new home and maybe help flesh out a purpose for that house i hope dinner was good breakfast for me has been a series of snacks:)

2005-08-04 [TheRogue]: The red house clan is based around cybering, porn, child porn and other offensive violations within that category.

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: Righto... argh, wish I wasn't watching so many wikis, they call back and forth. Just reading through everyone elses profile, never was a natural writer. Oh and dinner was lovely, thankyou (while I'm still at home and being cooked for!)

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: people i need to tend my addiction (neverwinternights gaming) ill be back in an hour or 2...i hope :P

2005-08-04 [TheRogue]: ahh.. nevercrack.. I"ll be there soon i hope.. getting a computer from my dad (broken down computer) and trying to fix it up so me an Erin stop fighting over the Crapintosh. :D

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: hey becareful how you talk of the great computer ! :)

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: hum...nearly finished writing what I can in my profile. Never been an rp-er so not the best at writing, but tried to put it in the same style as the others. So, the black arrow you say? I'll post it in un momento...

2005-08-04 [Mom]: @Travs...I have never heard of a great computer. =\ They are all tempermental

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: mac all the way and welcome mom- shall we place you in a house :)

2005-08-04 [Lothuriel]: Is that like the Great Pumpkin?

2005-08-04 [shotokan_gal]: The profile's finished for now. Well, as much as I could put in.

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: everyone's a comedian:)

2005-08-04 [Mom]: Yes Travs...I would love it.

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: so mom what is your specialty:) and what do you want to do:) don't just say anything cause we already know that:)

2005-08-04 [Lothuriel]: Just a question guys, please don't throw rocks at me...I know I said I would not be able to be involved like I had planned originally but, I still want to help as much as I can. Any task that needs to be done let me know ok? I don't want you guys to think I have abandoned the cause. 

2005-08-04 [Mom]: Specialty...nothing.(I am a jack or all trades and master of none). I train easy though.

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: well loth your still part of the red house and erin could prob use the help in organizing that house- mom i think you might be good for the green house with erestor - there is much to be done and it needs focus- if you are up to it- to the green house you go:)

2005-08-04 [Lothuriel]: ok, thanks I will ask her about it.

2005-08-04 [Rennie]: Loth, you are mine ;). Create yourself a profile and we'll talk about setting up our house...

2005-08-04 [Ariandra]: What is black arrow's primary interst?

2005-08-04 [Linn Scarlett]: gahh *stil on nevercrack* must stop.... gahhh! must finish quest *jumps into game again*

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: to create a town within a town

2005-08-04 [Mom]: No one is home ...poor green house. Erestor is on vacation and I start mine when he gets back.=\

2005-08-04 [travs the bean]: no reason why you cannot start it now- :) read the other house descriptions - yellow has a nice one steel hammer is average and go from there i do not think erestor will mind:)

2005-08-05 [Erestor]: Mom, I will be happy to be under your command - and I back now everyone!!

2005-08-05 [Mom]:  You're back and I am leaving...tonight. GAH!  When I get back we will get the house set up okay? Make notes..I am working on a house discription and my member discript as well. I will be back Thursday morning. Going to Tennessee to see my son and his performance in Cats. *So Excited*Take care of the house Erestor.

2005-08-05 [Erestor]: I will do - hope you enjoy the performance!

2005-08-05 [travs the bean]: good luck mom- we'll get the changes all in place

2005-08-05 [Mom]: Thank you...Love you guys!!! *Bear Hugs*

2005-08-05 [Igorina]: Gonna rework my house description...I know I can do better...it's okay as it is but I'm not satisfied ^_~

2005-08-05 [Erestor]: I'll update the house where and when ever possible :) Bye!

2005-08-08 [Linn Scarlett]: iam back O.o sort of >_<

2005-08-10 [travs the bean]: well the earthquake is over i would hope:) everyone survive???

2005-08-10 [shotokan_gal]: Earthquake? o_0

2005-08-10 [travs the bean]: yeah elftown going down the other day:)

2005-08-10 [shotokan_gal]: Ah that one. Was wondering what I'd missed in the news... *shakes head at self* I tend to keep a word doc of my elftown and elfwood bios these days thankfully, since I did sort it out just a bit earlier for the description rules.

2005-08-10 [Erestor]: I survived aswell.

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: peeps, trav, rogue, do we know a [Imraith-Nymphial]? if we dont, she has the arrow-logo *scowls*

2005-08-18 [travs the bean]: ...... i did not know- anyone else????? oh and linn nice to see you back and did you ever get around to asking our hopefuls to join?

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: not yet sorry, yes thank you, i sended her a message

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: i checked the houses, she's not there, so she has no right to have it (i figured) i just said "may i ask why you have the picture with the three arrows?" if she sais, "why" ill reply something like "it was made by a friend of me, as a gift to his friends, me and some others"

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: also said it to a friend of mine who asked if he could use it as house-end-pic-thingie (thats why its on the bottom of my house, tlooks like a no meaning ending graphic :p this is not an insult ;)  )

2005-08-18 [travs the bean]: yeah ask it without any intent on what it is about- keep it low key

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: i thought it a nice lie ^_^

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: and it has a core of truth, which is the best part :p

2005-08-18 [travs the bean]: lol-

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: anyho, vacation was kind of nice ^_^

2005-08-18 [travs the bean]: glad to hear it-

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: how has things been going here while i was off?

2005-08-18 [travs the bean]: very very quiet

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: is that a good thing or a bad thing?

2005-08-18 [travs the bean]: i don't knoe

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: hmmmm *suspicious* :P

2005-08-18 [shotokan_gal]: *wanders in looking shifty* hey all...

2005-08-18 [shotokan_gal]: hum... guess person above probably thought it was an elftown graphic. At least it draws attention away from it if everyone thinks that :P

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: hi :D

2005-08-18 [shotokan_gal]: Thought I'd better give you something to be suspicious at ;)

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: like what?

2005-08-18 [shotokan_gal]: Oh just general shiftyness <_< *offers choc chip muffins*

2005-08-18 [Linn Scarlett]: *munches them quickly*

2005-08-19 [Erestor]: As I'm acting head at the moment would it be okay for me too invite someone to be a member of my house?

2005-08-19 [Linn Scarlett]: donno, hey trav, she still hasnt reacted to my message O.o

2005-08-19 [Mom]: Erestor...who do you want to invite if you may?

2005-08-19 [Erestor]: [Janouk] if possible. She's one of my oldest friends and very responsiblie and will do her best for the group.

2005-08-19 [Linn Scarlett]: put her otherwise on the newmember list thingie or something, peeps will have a look at it (oa me)

2005-08-19 [travs the bean]: yeah put her in the pledge listing- hey mom how was the trip

2005-08-19 [Mom]: Well if you looked at my house you saw how wonderful it was. *Cheesy Grin* It was great to see my son...even better to see him perform. Ahhh...such Talent. I see him in New York (Broadway) soon.

2005-08-19 [travs the bean]: very cool - the magic cat of the show:) very cool - i wish him luck

2005-08-19 [Mom]: He finishes in September then off to auditions again. =\ 

2005-08-19 [travs the bean]: tell him to stick it out- only way stuff happens

2005-08-19 [Mom]: I don't think I have met a more determined young man...In less than 5 years he has gone from a 240lbs and not a single dance lesson to 165 lbs and one throughly awesome dancer.

2005-08-19 [Mom]: It's amazing when a child finds his or her passion... It makes all the difference in the world on their success.

2005-08-19 [Erestor]: Wow, impressive stats :D

2005-08-19 [Mom]: I think so...40 inch waste to 29.

2005-08-19 [Linn Scarlett]: gehh what did i miss? i was having a mental break down (see diary *lol*)

2005-08-19 [travs the bean]: sorry about that :O - momm came back and so now we're starting to get things back in order

2005-08-19 [Linn Scarlett]: oh ok ^_^

2005-08-19 [shotokan_gal]: *OhhhHHhhhhs at the pics on [Mom]'s house* I love musicals, but never got the chance to see cats over here before it ended. Must be fantastic to actually perform in them ^_^

2005-08-19 [Mom]: It was so much fun to watch...even better to watch him. =}

2005-08-21 [travs the bean]: ok the 3 arrpw os showing up in a few people's houses that are not members- i've been thinking that if people have it on their name than we stay hidden - the true members of our clan are named here- maybe though we can put a list of those false members? 

2005-08-21 [travs the bean]: thoughts so we are united on this

2005-08-21 [Erestor]: Well we could make a page called 3 arrows - this would contain a list of the members here, and it would mean that we would know who was allow to display the badge. Also this could link in with what I sent to [Fizban] about it being a friendship token rather than a wiki banner - basically it would give an altenative of lying through our teeth.

2005-08-21 [Linn Scarlett]: well i dont know, the friendship-token worked pretty well with the nice people so far. but maybe its better. so that the art work isnt directly linked to people of our clans

2005-08-21 [Linn Scarlett]: if a guard would inquire, it would be like "no its just a nice pic i found" ok they'd lose it , but you get my drift i hope

2005-08-21 [shotokan_gal]: Personally think it might be better not to have a members list all in one place. The symbol is certainly in a similar style to the take elftown back graphics (having the same fantastic artist of course), so I guess people think it's connected to that. But it can't harm I guess, as you say travs, maybe have a list of those we know *aren't* members if we see they've got the arrows.

2005-08-21 [Linn Scarlett]: it kind of annoid me when i saw them. because i was like: you nasty art thief you didn't even ask....

2005-08-21 [shotokan_gal]: Yeah there's that. That's the problem with et graphics, I've reported things to their owners who I knew didn't want the graphics widely used, if it was their own personal ones. If we write anything like that under it though it might draw attention to who's got them and who not. *shrugs* Travs' call though. And we all do know how many art thieves there can be around, who would ignore such things anyway.

2005-08-21 [Linn Scarlett]: thats why i refuse making banners and such anymore for houses (thus for ET graphics) cause my own personal littel graphic thingies get stolen from my house O.o'

2005-08-21 [Igorina]: I agree with making the list of those who are not members...hehe...Call them DarkArrow Posers ^_~

2005-08-21 [Erestor]: Well it's travs call what happens but I liked the idea of fooling people into believing it's something small.

2005-08-21 [Linn Scarlett]: just call them posers

2005-08-22 [Linn Scarlett]: hey i just figured, we have guards amongst us no? cant they remove the arrow image?

2005-08-22 [Linn Scarlett]: *hissing with anger* that stupid woman really got me pissed off BIG TIME, she claims a friend gave it to her *howls* and i cant do anything without mentioning names and i refuse to mention names and *growls*

2005-08-22 [Mom]: I believe if we all give [travs the bean] credit for the graphic and thank him for allowing us to use it, can't we stop people from using it without [travs the bean]'s permission.

2005-08-22 [Lothuriel]: That is very true, [Mom]. If they are not a member, they should have to take it down....plain and simple.  Like [travs the bean] said, we just tell them he made it as a gift to friends and they do not have permission to display it. It is the same as stealing any other peice of art.

2005-08-22 [Linn Scarlett]: cause it majorly pissed me off this morning

2005-08-22 [Linn Scarlett]: yeah but that stupid woman i mentioned earlier wont take it down, she claimed a friend of her made it FOR HER *growls*

2005-08-22 [Lothuriel]: who is she, I don't care to tell her like it is.