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2008-07-20 [Lepellier]: I know the arrows are quite a large expense in weight, but you do have to carry your own. You did very well on creating this character and filling oput the page. However, the cloak, I'm pretty sure I cannot allow the new cloak to be made just like that, however I will implement a rule from DnD, taking one item, and being able to make a similar item in terms of stats as a different type of item. However, I don't believe we can get you the Def bonus.
2008-07-20 [Gastogh]: Thanks.
The D&D bit would mean that I might've taken the stats of some similar item, for example a robe, and made it into a cloak instead?
I'll edit the cloak thus: def bonus removed from the base item and enhancement moved from def to Dex, so there's +2 Dex overall, with appropriate monetary adjustments. That fine?
2008-07-20 [Lepellier]: I still have to find an item that matches my idea to be able to do that...I found a way, but it would cost 215gp overall.
2008-07-21 [Gastogh]: What is it, then? Enryich's got the money, but it better not weigh more than 2 units.
2008-07-21 [Lepellier]: ok, well, it's actually only going to cost you 215, but the thing is, no matter what, a cloak weighs 3 units.
2008-07-21 [Lepellier]: P.s. You probably won't need the rations or waterskin...or bedroll...I've always been horrible about remembering to make people eat/drink/slee
2008-07-21 [Gastogh]: If you say so. Failing all else, you can always roll Survival, right? :p
Bye bye, sustenance items. The 215 has been paid and cloak weight fixed. Bought some more arrows.
2008-07-21 [Lepellier]: sounds good. But yeah, if nothing else...Hello random Dah'kin Inn! lol
2008-07-22 [Gastogh]: I don't get it. xP
2008-07-22 [Lepellier]: Just a random place to eat/drink/slee
2008-07-26 [Gastogh]: All right, the rundown: toned down (got rid of) bonuses to *melee* "attack" and *blocking* "defense", changed the skill Pack Rat to Camouflage, shortbow for longbow, Bracers of Archery for the Swift Gloves and leather helmet for Hunter's Hat. Costs are worked out.
2008-07-26 [Lepellier]: Alright! *thumbs up* But that knife won't do you any good...you don't have the proficiency for it.
2008-07-26 [Gastogh]: That's all right, it's sort of included only as a noteworthy part of normal adventuring gear, so I'll actually have something to carve arrows with if need be.
2008-07-26 [Lepellier]: kk
2008-07-28 [Gastogh]: Since the game's not in any rush to start, I've been expanding on Enryich's description. Nothing greatly relevant will be added at this point, just flavor, details and such.
Also, changed that knife's name to dagger, which is what it was supposed to be from the start. :p Not sure how I found an item called "knife" in the weapons index.
2008-07-30 [Lepellier]: Hah, I was honestly wondering that myself. But cool, the more detil, generally, the better.
2008-08-03 [Gastogh]: Hmm, what bonuses would an ordinary stone or some other improvised projectile get as a weapon since they're not classified as requiring a weapon proficiency? Would they be so simple to use that anyone gets full bonuses form items and the like?
I ask because Enryich might run out of arrows or get his bow stolen or sommin'.
2008-08-04 [Lepellier]: like...0
2008-08-04 [Gastogh]: So nothing from items, either?
2008-08-04 [Lepellier]: not unless you used it as a sling bullet, with a -2 to your attack.
2008-08-05 [Gastogh]: But a sling bullet requires you to use a sling, and slings require proficiency. Oh well.
2008-08-05 [Lepellier]: yeah, pretty much. a stone would confer a total of -6ish.
2008-08-05 [Gastogh]: -6 by itself isn't that bad, Enryich has attack bonuses of like, +27. What's bad is not getting the items, so I suppose I'll just have to hang onto that bow. :p
2008-08-05 [Lepellier]: I doubt he has a +27 over all, you have to remember that you get your weapon bonus, your Dex bonus (For ranged) and the bonuses from other items, but not other weapons.
2008-08-05 [Lepellier]: I think you get the bonus for Atk, not Dex from other items, not dex bonus for your attacks.
2008-08-05 [Gastogh]: 8 natural Dex+15 Dex from items+2 from race+2 from Marksmanship = 27.
But as I said, if he doesn't get anything from items, that's that.
"I think you get the bonus for Atk, not Dex from other items, not dex bonus for your attacks. "
When I last asked about that I was told that bonus to "attack" is only bonus to "melee attack", except in ranged weapon entries. So if ranged attackers are to get any bonuses to their attacks at all other than from their weapons, they WILL get that Dex from their items.
2008-08-05 [Lepellier]: Hmmmm...I know they do get a Dex bonus, but that +2 Dex from race is already calculated into your Natural Dex. You are probably right that it is your Dex bonus to ranged attacks, so i'll look into that for you at some point.
2008-08-05 [Gastogh]: Thanks.
But no, it's not +2 Dex from race. The race bonus is +1 Dex and *that* is already calculated in. What I'm talking about is this:
Human (Rysallean):
- +1 to DEX, -1 STR
- Starts with the Handle Bows skill
- +2 to Attack with Ranged Weapons.
- +1 SP at start.
- +1 SP every 5 levels
2008-08-06 [Lepellier]: oh, kk.
2008-08-07 [Gastogh]: In Tyza's thread, you said this: "Ok, you don't need Handle Axes. I'm lenient on the "Handle weapon" skills, and since you can handle swords, axes aren't as necessary."
I'm wondering what exactly that meant; that Tyza doesn't need the Handle Axes skill? If that's so, will Enryich need to burn up his Skill Points to get Handle Swords and Claws, as he'll be getting Hunter levels at some point?
Granted, he'll get Ranger levels first and I'll be amazed if the game actually gets that far (first five levels or Archer, then five of Ranger, then any Hunter levels...), but if I don't have to take skills I know I'm not going to use anyway...
2008-08-08 [Gastogh]: I added one last small thing to Enryich's personality, mostly because I had somehow missed it. Perfectionist that I am, I could keep this bio an ongoing project for at least a year more. However, since the start of the game is so close, this was the last edit that I'm making, however much it might itch later. :p
2008-08-13 [Gastogh]: "You are probably right that it is your Dex bonus to ranged attacks, so i'll look into that for you at some point."
Have you verified that either way yet? I'm fairly sure the judgement won't have shifted since the last time I asked about it, but I suppose it's still check-worthy. When I asked it before, I asked Veltzeh.
2008-08-13 [Lepellier]: Well, if you asked Vel and he said it's dex bonus, then it's Dex bonus. :)
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