2008-04-11 [xido]: Well, believe it or not I know that information only because I was in the same town as Torrant for so long while he ran minotaur games the last few years. I think technically that's inside information.... O.o

I think Bloodhorns are about 3-5 feet (?) but big scary horns and a bloodthirsty rage. They are like tiny powerhouses of minotaur might and doom. x.xp
-will

2008-04-11 [Linn Scarlett]: They are shorter even than Logan? And he's only barely half an inch taller than me XD Thats outragious, should be forbidden! XD

2008-04-11 [xido]: :P Should be... It may be that they are a rare subspecies/caste.... ;)

2008-04-11 [Linn Scarlett]: I like minotaur, but that, dear Xido, was the biggest turn off in a century :p

2008-04-12 [xido]: x.xp

2008-04-12 [Linn Scarlett]: seriously :P

2008-04-17 [Linn Scarlett]: Hm the only character I have that weighs near half a ton is my Demon Overlord, who's half Balor half Drow. I've a half Drow half Minotaur myself, result of the above shown characters. Well, I have to say all my minotaur knowledges is firmly lodged in my readings of the Minotaur Wars trilogy. That's really all I know, so I based my characters off them. I've a personal preferance for tall muscular men, so that could be the deal with the whole lengt ;) and minotaurs are considered humanoid and interbreedable in DnD general too so, just wanted to make sure and ask if you had any different ideas. Though Minotaur-mom and other-dad kids are more frequent in my story than the other way around, even though the other way around occures much more (kidnapping and counter-rape are a major issue where my characters come from. the minotaurs are the only race really able to resist the raid assaults of the Drow). Why these minotaur-dad other-mom kids don't usually survive is very simple: the minotaur himself kills them off, the woman dies waaaay before even being near term, or she dies during birth for the obvious reasons of her womb and channel not being made for half minotaur babies. The other way around is more frequent for the last reason, a half minotaur i think is a smaller baby so a minotaur cow would have no trouble. and the drow usually keep these offsprings because they are 'better slaves' as they usually have dark vision and such like their drow parent.

2008-04-17 [Linn Scarlett]: so erm yeah XD did another shot of my minotaurs and their 'owner' (they're slaves in this story :3) I did it today to show off my minotaur skills ;) hope you'll like it. Clické-vous: 

2008-04-17 [Linn Scarlett]: one more: how can a subspecie be strictly male? thats biologically impossible, as they would have to breed somehow. And if tey breed with another subspecie its impossible for the children to be of theirs... or is that my biological university mind kicking holes in the idea of random fantasy logic?

2008-04-20 [xido]: Try thinking of the Castes not as much like a subspecies, but like a genetic trait. Minotaur traits in Minoa are specific, and the castes are reflections of the DNA's ability to form the minotaur creature into a specific niche of existence.

With this idea, being born is not like looking like your parents. It is like being born to ants or bees, where your genetic makeup influences your social standing, and not the other way around.

If there were ever a male produced from a purely female line, or if a male caste found a female of that caste, because of the culture's somewhat semi-militaristic approach to society they might simply kill off the child, or allow it to be misplaced in a way in which it would forever be lost or not survive. These situations would be a rarity, if anything.

In Ishtarania'ishen on Qor, the Minoan bloodline did some funny things. It's because the Ishtar separated culturally and theologically from the Minoan culture, and then became a little more mixed, liberal, and even a bit softer than their previous cultural heritage.

Awesome pics, Linn. Very inspiring. I'm excited to finally see the drafts for a lineup come together for these figures. Let me know if you need further ideas for body shape of each, since each one has a little bit of a different feel to it. I would say the most common version of a minotaur in my mind is a simple (Common) Minoan. Not that scary thing from the Monster Manual though. That thing is icky and angry.

2008-04-20 [Linn Scarlett]: Hmm the Minoan makes me think of Belpheron -the one with the kilt- he's a generally easy going person too and very curious as may be noted from the drawing XD It was a shot I did for [melcinitan] latest story, where he made my character Goddess of Creative Ars, Leasure, Sex and generally all things fluffy ^_^

2008-04-20 [Linn Scarlett]: I still have a difficulty to get my head around understanding the whole idea, but that might be my biological mind getting the better of me. It's how I was and am being schooled after all ;) Anyway. I'll nodd and do as the page says XD

2008-04-24 [xido]: Right, it's high fantasy, which means that just about anything is possible. The important part is that they look particular, and so they can be any of the available genders per their caste (subspecies, or niche).

Think of it society affecting genetics, instead of genetics simply influencing society without the reverse being true. Minotaurs have adapted this mode of living through cultural separation from other continents, as well as by 'divine forces'.... you know, the BIG divine forces in the sky... On a little blue planet named Gaia/Tiamat/Earth, somewheres off along in the cosmos.... ;) :P

I am excited about this. Even a couple of sketches of these castes will give me enough to begin working on a lineup illustration for them in my new software for school.

Just got Adobe Creative Suite 3 for this program and my new class schedule... Very exciting! ;)
-will

2008-04-24 [Linn Scarlett]: Hmm sounds good enough, I'll give it a shot when I have time, though I fear that might be after my excavations of this year :/ which could very well run far into July :/

2008-05-02 [xido]: July-August is not too late. I appreciate the help, and I'm sure Maat does too. ;)

2008-05-03 [Linn Scarlett]: I should hope so ;)

2008-12-13 [Artsieladie]: Hmm...what happened here?

2008-12-14 [Linn Scarlett]: I donno

2008-12-28 [xido]: I think I know, but it's not worth discussing.

My official answer:
emotionally irrational moments of resentment toward the gaming community for not fulfilling expectations laid down by this page's creator.

I doubt we will ever witness its return, believe it or not. *sighs*

2008-12-28 [Artsieladie]: I see.... erm... no, I don't see.

2008-12-30 [Linn Scarlett]: Nope, me neither