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2006-11-07 [Zab]: Yes, if you marry over internet ;)
2006-11-07 [Linderel]: If it's a play-marriage, then yes. :P
2006-11-07 [Zab]: :O I answered first Lin! XD *hugs* I somehow missed/forgot you were here..:P
2006-11-07 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: XDD
2006-11-07 [Zab]: Two mouths! :O *inspects*
2006-11-07 [Linderel]: Well, I don't talk much on this wiki, so it's easy to forget I'm here. xP
2006-11-07 [Zab]: *poke* Why are you here? Are you gay? :O Or just supporting? :P *nosy*
2006-11-07 [Linderel]: Just supporting. :P I claim to be bisexual, but so far, I have no evidence of this. xD
2006-11-07 [Zab]: *lmao* Interesting stand, that is..x) I don't really know what I am..O__o
I'm still trying to figure how to get to all those hot gay-guys without getting any operation..>_>
On the other hand.. I did marry Steph..who claims to be gay and not bi..x)
2006-11-07 [Linderel]: Love transcends gender/sex. *nod nod* Even if you think you're perfectly straight, you might find that the love of your life is of the same sex, or the other way around (you thought you were gay but your life mate happens to be of the opposite sex), and it doesn't matter, because you'd love them no matter what they are. :3
Not saying that Steph is the love of your life, though... is he? :P
2006-11-07 [Zab]: That's sweet:P
2006-11-07 [Linderel]: *ish all naïve and stuff*
2006-11-07 [Zab]: *hugs* You should be. ^__^
XD
I think I'll go to sleep..it's all..dead..her
2006-11-07 [Linderel]: Aws. *squishes* Good night then! :o
2006-11-07 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: I agree with Linny.
But I actually have proof of being bi. =P a girl-crush on the MOST AMAZING GIRL YOU EVER MET! kyaw... *fangirls*
2006-11-07 [Zab]: hehe, whee!
I have a friend who were bi..she hit on me..>_>
2006-11-07 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: XD I still prefer boys. They're prettier. Yum. Especially with little-no hair on chests, and slightly moist. yummm.... *drools over her ideal boy's body*
2006-11-07 [Zab]: *lmao* I won't say how I want them to look ;)
2006-11-07 [Linderel]: Pretty boys with long hair and dimples. <3
2006-11-08 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: oh, personally? let's not EVEN go into the face (the first thing I look at on a guy) I have such a specific image it's not EVEN funny! #1: dark hair, silky, slightly curly, down to neck... etc, etc. o.o I'm not even gonna go on, it would take forever.
2006-11-08 [Balthizar]: Oo
2006-11-10 [*(.Randi.)*]: Are there any gay guys here? If so, please tell me, why I seem to always find the "perfect" guy, and then he turns out to be gay?!!
2006-11-10 [Zab]: Because all the perfect guys are gay ;)
2006-11-10 [MagpieWisdom]: Whenever I hear someone say all gay guy are perfect I always wonder, if that's so, why do most gay guys I meet turn out to be shallow, self-centred morons?
2006-11-10 [MagpieWisdom]: I'm probably just too picky.
2006-11-10 [Zab]: We girls like to say they are, you know the grass is always greener on the other side? ;)
2006-11-10 [*(.Randi.)*]: Right. We want the one thing we can't get. Which sucks.
2006-11-10 [Zab]: *just has to say again that I married a gay* x)
2006-11-10 [*(.Randi.)*]: Well then he wasn't gay! XD He was Bisexual.
2006-11-10 [Zab]: He claims to still be gay! :O He fooled me! XD
We married on ET just for fun ;)
2006-11-10 [*(.Randi.)*]: Oh. Right, I think I saw that! ^-^
2006-11-10 [Zab]: Hehehe..x) It was fun:P
2006-11-10 [*(.Randi.)*]: ^^
2006-11-11 [Rove]: ^^...?
2006-11-12 [a faerie tale]: Super.
2006-11-12 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: very super.
2006-11-12 [*(.Randi.)*]: ..............
2006-11-12 [a faerie tale]: Sproing?
Hehehe, that reminds me of "Scientific Progress Goes Boink?"
2006-11-12 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: XDD science is bogus. =P they use loop-stuffles. wheee.... *floats*
...well, some science is bogus. =P some I personally agree with. Like molecules. I agree with that science. And gravity...exis
2006-11-13 [a faerie tale]: Yay Calvin and Hobbes!
2006-11-13 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: XD what!
2006-11-13 [Rove]: What...cavin? Hobbs? the comic thing?
2006-11-13 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: no, what does it have to do with what I said?
2006-11-14 [Rove]: ....I see...
2006-11-15 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: Goddess of the Lost Ones, the reasons that you find a guy that you think is perfect and then he turns out to be gay are the following. First off, gay men tend to take better care of themselves, hygenically speaking, than most straight men. Many gay men are more considerate, more understanding, more sensitive, and more compassionate than most straight men. Also, gay men understand women a lot better than straight men, because it has been scientifically proven that gay men are mentally more closely related to straight women than straight men. We think, act, and talk more like a woman than a man.
2006-11-15 [Zab]: Next question then: How can we make you love straight women without taking away all the good gay-ness? x) That's the eternal question for all of us poor women that has to satisfie with straight guys:P
2006-11-15 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: As in make us metrosexual? Straight with all the qualities of a gay guy?
2006-11-15 [Zab]: Yeah? :P
(I'm just kidding..well.
2006-11-15 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: lol. unfortunately, those of us that are actually gay can't be changed. Any guy who says he was gay but then turned to women was either a. confused and never really gay in the first place, or b. is still gay but is trying to play the "norms" of society.
2006-11-15 [Zab]: Or bisexual? >_>
2006-11-15 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: that too. However, I must take my leave, for I am currently at school and must get to class. Perhaps I will be on later today. If not, i shall tomorrow.
2006-11-15 [Zab]: OK..have fun in school..x)
2006-11-16 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: La di da so are we gonna have a banner for the 1500 mark?
2006-11-16 [Rove]: who knows?
2006-11-17 [a faerie tale]: I hope so!
2006-11-17 [Rove]: It Be nice ^^
2006-11-17 [MagpieWisdom]: You just reminded my with the turning gay men straight comment. In america the government are funding vivisection with gay sheep to try to find what makes them gay and then 'cure it'. they have then said that they will apply the findings to humans, thus 'curing' homosexuality! The fucking nerve of these people. A fucking cure! Wankers!
2006-11-17 [MagpieWisdom]: It would be like Xmen3, with the cure in that, which is one of the film's underlying messages. I saw an interview with Sir. Ian Mckellen. :)
2006-11-18 [Balthizar]: Aye, and if you noticed, it was begining to wear off near the end of the movie XD.
2006-11-18 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: hm. looks like I might actually watch that movie (1st was bad, 2nd was worse, 3rd though might be better. =P)
2006-11-18 [DragonThug]: i am dragonkitty and i suport gay mariges
2006-11-18 [a faerie tale]: Can you believe that they legalized gay marriage in South Africa, but not in America? America had always said that they would strive to be better than any other country.
Weird.
2006-11-18 [Zab]: I think the problem there is that america doesn't think gay marriage is good:P
2006-11-18 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: yeah. o.o
and think. Wasn't South Africa the one with all the prejudice problems that WE tried to fix not too long ago? and what now? the other way around? freeeeeaky...
oh, and in other news, I saw a commercial saying "adopt a child. There are so many in foster homes." Which is just proof against certain arguments, that I'm too lazy to write up here. =P
2006-11-18 [Zab]: I have no idea about the problem in south africa..I avoid media and news they only make me depressed since I can't help anyway..
hehe
2006-11-18 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: that WAS, was racism. I've seen movies. =) it's kinda.... better now? yeah.
2006-11-18 [Zab]: Well yeah I knew that:P But I don't know what's done about it or how it changed..
2006-11-19 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: ah. well,I was so little when it was going on, I don't really know either
2006-11-19 [Zab]: hehe, ok
2006-11-19 [HiddenFire]: some random articles that counteract when people claim that homosexuality is against biology:
http://songwea
http://en.wiki
I know this is random and out of place but I figured I would share all the same.
2006-11-19 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: 'XD! okay!
2006-11-19 [*(.Randi.)*]: laaaaaleeeeeee
2006-11-20 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: i heard about the sheep experiment, magpie, and it disgusts me to no end. Why do people hate us so much? What did we ever do to them? I remember when I was down by the Mississippi river for the fourth of july over a year ago and I was leaning against John, my fiance, when this guy who was standing next to us hits me with his bag and says get the fuck away from my kid. I was so very angry... What did we do to him? What did we to do his kid? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! I'm so very sick of this world we live in where people hate for no good reason. I'm so sick of America, of George Bush, of Republicans in general, of hyper Christian fanatics, of anyone who judges us based upon who we love. I wish that all of the GLBT community could gather together and just shout out for justice and that our voice would carry accross the entire nation and change the heart of every homophobe, of every gay-basher, of every ignorant person. I want peace. I want hope. I WANT JUSTICE!
2006-11-20 [Zab]: I don't have much experience in the matter, but it's awful to hear my boyfriends friend brag about how he beaten up a ''fuckin gay dude'' for looking at him.. He was actually proud that the guy was in hospital. ><
(Do I have to say that the guy who bragged about it didn't look very proud when I had talked to him about what I thought about it..)
2006-11-20 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: yeah... people are just... blah. I seriously hate people.
2006-11-20 [Zab]: ¨Well..most of them are ok..but sometimes you run into morons.
2006-11-20 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: true, very true.
2006-11-20 [Zab]: I'm always truthful..;)
2006-11-20 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: ugh. I can't stand prejudices of any sort. you have no idea how many times I've wanted to beat people bloody for being prejudiced, but held back and continued to work.
I'd like to be an activist, thinking about it. Not organise anything (ugh no; that'd be awful), not speak (conversation skills? Close to nil), but campaign for equal rights. Just like in the past with rascism and sexism. Homophobia is no different, no different whatsoever.
2006-11-21 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: What we need to do is get the GLBTQA community to actually work together for once. The problem that we have is that we aren't organized. The majority of the GLBTQA communtiy doesn't really care what happens, and if they do, they are too lazy or nervous to come forward and let our voice be heard. I am sad to say that our community contains way too much drama. The majority of young homosexual males are more concerned with sex and clubbing than politics. We need a leader. We need the gay version of Martin Luther King. Without a leader, we have no standing. Unless we organize, we will never be heard.
2006-11-21 [MagpieWisdom]: I don't know about organising the gay community, I doubt that will ever happen. I agree wth [Brought to You By The Letter G] the majority of young gay people are so unaware of anything but their own cocks and who they feel like sticking it into. They'd never be able to organise themselves. I mean, levels of HIV/AIDS among young gay pepole hasn't been this high since the first big AIDS awareness campaign, because young gays see HIV as an old STD, that used to happen, but won't effect them because they're young. Madness!! Fucking Madness!!
2006-11-21 [*(.Randi.)*]: bleh...
2006-11-22 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: =. ....hm, I'm willing to campaign. And I have several people to join me. friends. oO but not many. this has to be large-scale, like it was with the black civil rights campaign.
This is a disease. And I'll argue with you, Magpie. Here, everyone's quite aware. Though, being gay is like asking for abuse. Verbal and physical. It's so wrong; I can't stand it. Sometimes, I swear.......
On another note that's vaguely similar, I just finished watching Brokeback Mountain. (as in, 30 seconds ago)
1) WHAT'S THE BIG IDEA?!?!?! "the gay cowboy movie". SURE it was about two cowboys falling in love. But it wasn't a fanservice-fes
2) that's SO wrong. People shouldn't have to hide like that. No way. I hate it. I don't know, but I want to do something. I don't care. It totally riles me up.
2006-11-22 [*(.Randi.)*]: Yeah, I aggree!
2006-11-22 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: with what or all?
2006-11-22 [*(.Randi.)*]: err...I dunno. All of it.
2006-11-22 [MagpieWisdom]: Yeah, sorry I realise (almost?) everyone on here cares, I was just feeling a bit disheartened by everything when I posted that. I do loads of campaigning (on just about everything) and was just feeling a bit tired of trying to help people change themselves and only get very small changes, if any. Most of the time I get nothing. I love campaigning, but it is rather frustrating when nothing seems to work. Oh well, now I'm full of energy again, so am ready to continue to change the world.
2006-11-22 [shirono]: I would join you all if you decided to do something, but I can't start it because of my parents. I think that's a problem for a lot of people. In the black civil rights movement, no one who joined was going to be disowned by their families for being black lol.
[I'm her Georgia *Peach!*] is right, it would have to be large scale and too many of the people willing to stand up for their rights are to afraid to come out publicly because of their families.
2006-11-22 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: Yeah, I didn't think about that. My family wouldn't disown me, actually, I don't know how they'd react if they knew I was bi. XD! ...but yeahn it happens, magpie. And thanks for telling us. ^_^
2006-11-22 [a faerie tale]: My dad flipped a shit. It was kinda funny actually now that I think about it.
2006-11-24 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: XDDDD!! HAH! Nice...
2006-11-24 [a faerie tale]: 
2006-11-24 [MagpieWisdom]: Yeah, I was going to say that in Britain we've got almost all our legal rights, excluding blood donation for gay men, so gay activists here seem to feel we have won and can sit back and live life. What they seem to have forgotten is that gay people still get disowned, bullied at school/work etc, thought of as lesser etc. We haven't won, just becuse we've made big progress is no reason to stop. Wow, I seem to be ranting alot on here at the moment. :)
2006-11-24 [Zab]: Uhm..what do you mean with the blood donation part? They can't donate or they can't get it? Uhm..not that I can see any reason for either of it..*shakes head*
2006-11-24 [MagpieWisdom]: We can't give blood, supposedly we're too higher risk of HIV/AIDS, go to http://www.blo
2006-11-24 [Zab]: I don't know much about how homophobia shows, in sweden nor other countries..
2006-11-25 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: Ooh, that's kinda hypocritical. Wait, not kinda.VERY. And homophobia is a disease, no matter how you look at it. Exactly like rascism. I see no difference, and it's not acceptable in any form, under any circumstances. And straight people are just as susceptable to HIV as gays. I'm nonetoopleased with ANY of this. Obviously.XP
2006-11-25 [Zab]: I hope you didn't mean my comment...
I'm not homophobic, I'm pretty much spared from it..
2006-11-25 [*(.Randi.)*]: 
2006-11-25 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: Huh? No, not yours. The whole britain situation is hypocritical.
2006-11-25 [Zab]: ok..x)
2006-11-25 [a faerie tale]: 
Stupid hypocrits.
2006-11-25 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: yea.
*sings*
"I don't wanna be a hypocrite!" (nuh-uh)
"I don't wanna be a hypocrite!" (NO way!)
"Cause they're not HIP with it!"
"I don't wanna be a hypocrite!" >: <
2006-11-26 [No Longer On Here]: I'm back..kind of..
2006-11-26 [MagpieWisdom]: Still, it could be worst, in Egypt they'll put you to death if they find out you've had a gay sex, same in most countries in the Middle East, Africa and South America. Even in parts of the USA, you'd be murdered, by the public, instead of the state if they found out. Ahh the bible belt, where 'god' says murder's ok, if done in 'his' name.
... So yes britain is hypocritical, which I can't stand, but I'm still thankful that I'm not going to be killed here.
2006-11-26 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: >=O *rawrrawrrawr* .......I live in the bible belt. =P I actually am christian, but God never, NEVER condones violence. He actually says, "Leave em ALONE! Whatever they've done, I don't care. Don't you lay a finger on them. I'LL take over, cause YOU can't judge. Only I have the right to judge a man and punish him. SO BACK OFF, HUMANS!!"
XDD I may have elaborated a little bit there.
2006-11-26 [MagpieWisdom]: yeah I know, thats why I said "where 'god' says it's ok to murder", because loads of bible belt 'christians' think they can do anything as long as they say/believe they ae doing it for God. It reminds me of of a great bumper sticker I saw once that say "The Christian Right is neither". I couldn't agree more
2006-11-26 [Acidic Khemica]: 
What did I walk into?
2006-11-26 [a faerie tale]: A wall!
2006-11-26 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: =P kewl, magpie. really kewl. (had to think about that one a minute, tho. XD)
...bumper stickers? check out these sites. ^^
http://www.caf
^ search results. cruise thru.
2006-11-26 [Acidic Khemica]: Hehehe
2006-11-28 [No Longer On Here]: You want something slightly amusing look at my shirts I'm selling http://cafepre
2006-11-28 [Rainbows And Scene Kids]: Urgh You Wanna Hear Something Outrageous?
In Scotland, My Hairdresser Is Gay, And He Got Chased Out Of His Hometown, People Threatening To Kill Him And Throwing Shit At Him Because Of It.
Fucking Homophobes.
That Makes Me So Damn Angry.
People I Dont Know Just Walk Up To Me And Go "Ew, You Went Out With Girls And Boys, You Gay"
Im Like "Nice Observation Shitface. And Actually Im Bi, Get Your Damn Facts Straight"
ARGH.
Im Winding Myself Up.
2006-11-28 [a faerie tale]: What's The Deal With The Capitals?
2006-11-29 [Blaithin]: You noticed that too huh? 
2006-11-30 [Tay.]: [Rainbows And Scene Kids] I agree with you on that one, I hate homophobes!
2006-11-30 [a faerie tale]: 
...Maybe....
2006-12-01 [*(.Randi.)*]: 
2006-12-02 [a faerie tale]: I love these new emotion things!
They're so funny.
2006-12-02 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: XD they can be. I probably won't use them for a while. I like text emotions. woot! =P
2006-12-02 [Zab]: http://elftron
Does that image mean that people are puzzles? 
Small annoying pieces made of wood or karton? Odd.. Let's all laugh at the narrowminded pieces of puzzel..
2006-12-02 [Tay.]: Well that's odd...
We're WOOD! 
2006-12-02 [Zab]: Yes! :O Does that mean they're going to make a big picture of us? And then glue us to a frame?
2006-12-02 [Tay.]: YAAAY!...wait.
Well, hey at least it'll be a pretty picture!
2006-12-02 [Zab]: *lmao* Yeah, that's one good thing..XD
2006-12-02 [Tay.]: That's awesome!
2006-12-03 [a faerie tale]: Aw, darn. Looks like I can't be the puzzle piece I always wanted to be... -_-;;
2006-12-03 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: .........hmmmm
2006-12-03 [Zab]: XD True, true..
(tho..isn't sex one of the biggest differenses between a strong friendship and love?)
*shrugs* Does it matter, ''non-puzzel'' people still seem to find their way, so who am I to say it's wrong? x)
(It's actually quite weird.. I'm against everything that's not natural (and however you say, homosexuality isn't natural..>_> No matter id it happens to other beings than humans.) But in this case I'm the oposite; I can't see anything wrong with it, only good things.. I don't make sense do I? Since I think I'm just confusing, I'll add that I'm not agains gay marriage..just so you don't read it wrong..)
2006-12-03 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: no,no,no. The biggest difference between friendship and love is the emotions and the difference in emotions of what people feel. it's not the act, or just wanting the act. That's LUST. let's not get confused. but it's actually FEELING different.
2006-12-03 [Erutan]: Though there are casses where you can feel more for some one as a friend then you do as their lover, and still have those same feelings portray themselves as the feelings lovers have for each other. Some times your love for a friend can grow to be so strong that it imitates those of the feelings that two lovers share. And no I am not talking a lust for them... it is as you said... it is a Different kind of feeling. That is why I believe that it is hard for some people to actually make commitments because that just care and feel so much stronger then others... and some times it is hard to tell how they feel about them and or what the true feelings are... and again not talking about lust of the body... though in a way I guess you could say that it is a lust of the mind and of the heart to have some one to share things with. That is the one down fall tot he complexity of the human heart/mind... it truely is an unlimited source of potencial.
2006-12-03 [Zab]: I meant pretty much what Erutan said first; the friendship/lov
2006-12-03 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: but, it's two different emotions, really. And I shouldn't be talking, I have enough trouble distinguishing brotherly love from amorous love (like, I want to live with someone, cause somehow they're like family, even though we're not related, and I interpret that, or I can, as amorous love...). But really, it's not just lust. Lust is not a sign of compatibility. I think if anything it's a sign of who your instincts tell you is the #1 dog, so to speak. The biggest and strongest (metaphorically
...her point being, yes, there's some lust, always... but mostly, it's emotional and/or mental attraction. you FEEL it. XP It's hard to describe, but basically the difference between regret and remorse. They aren't the same, but they're reeeeally similar.
2006-12-03 [Zab]: But let's say tyou have a friend you love very much (as a friend). You want to spend time with this person and basicly sharing what happens to you with him/her.
And then someone you love just the same; you want to live with the person and share your life with him/her. But you also want sex. The second peron is of course your lover, and the first one is still ''just'' a friend.. The only differense is the lust.
I love one of my friends in the exactly same way I loved my boyfriend (before he turned his back on me), the big differense is that I would never in my life sleep with my friend..I can't even think of it.. >< While I had quite a time with that boyfriend.. So I still think lust is the differense between friendship and love. >_>
2006-12-03 [Zab]: (and I don't know what remorse is..)
2006-12-03 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: regret is "oh I wish I hadn't done that. Darn." Remorse is, "Oh, whyyy did I do that? I ruined his life! uwaaah!! T_T" ....that's my basic definition. ^^ look in the dictionary if you want a better one.
But see, that's not the ONLY thing that qualifies a romantic relationship. Compatibility is a HUGE issue. I have a friend who I love very much, and at one point in time when I was at his house, I considered a relationship. Then my brain was like, "XD HAH! HIM??? You wouldn't EVER be able to tolerate one another!!" But as a friend, we get along perfect. we could live under the same roof, but for him being my life-partner, it'd never work. The same with my ex. I would still love to have him around as my brother or something, but romantically? As my other half? It wasn't working out; that's why I broke up with him.
on a different note, "Beautiful" is an amazing song. It should be required for every adolescent (5th to 8th grade) to watch the video. T.T It very likely was the beginning of my gay rights view. Before that, I was like, "Guy go out with guy? oO Okaaaay..... weeeeeird...."
2006-12-03 [Zab]: Compatibility? >< Stop using so hard words, I'm just a stupid swedish girl.. blonde on that! *will google it*
Wrell..I suppose I don't feel like you then.. (I also have lived with friends, on a boarding, but still..)
2006-12-03 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: I'm sorry! '''''XD
....I didn't notice. You seem very fluent in English. ^^
Compatibility -> Compatible. Able to go with one another.
2006-12-03 [Zab]: Thank you. ^_^ I googled it:P
2006-12-04 [*(.Randi.)*]: 
Lots of talking..
2006-12-04 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: yeah. o.o
2006-12-04 [Erutan]: I am sorry to bust in like this but I have to say... Lust has no place in any form of a relationship..
2006-12-04 [Tay.]: 
You know, you have a point there.
2006-12-04 [Zab]: I see lust as the will to have sex with someone. Not only the will to have pointless sex with a stranger. And there are people I just wouldn't feel any lust for, even if I really, really want sex at the time and are almost prepared to grab a random man at the street...>_> Those people are dear friends and family (now the last should be pretty self-said).
Meh, think what you want. I still think lust can be the only difference between the love of a friend and the love of a partner.
Now, did you say that means I only want pointless sex with my partner?
2006-12-04 [Erutan]: Everyone has the right to their own opinions, and I never said you only want pointless sex with your partner because you and I have a different view of lust. Though if you look up lust in the dictionary... this is what you will find this; "uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite". Thus referring to mindless or meaningless sexual attraction or act of sexual pleasure. Then there is also the religious factor of lust being one of the seven deadly sins. Though we will not even go into that because the blind belief of one thing can only be seen as ignorance to the rest of the world. So staying on the subject... Lust is not the only difference between the love of a friend and the love of a partner... the intencity of emotion is what creates the attraction to each individual in our lives... weather it be as strong as a friendship or as strong as a lover... it is all about the feelings of the heart and the emotions you feel with the person... for when you are with your partner the feeling of sexual activities is not created out of lust of the desier to have sex it is to be completly embraced and as one with your partner... it is the act of making love not having sex. For most the act of sex is driven from lust and the act of making love is that of an emotional connection that triggers a sexual apeal in the body for your partner. When you love some one enough to give them your body you are making love... when you are horny or lustful you are throwing your body at the closest sexually attractive person just for the sake of releasing the sexual driven energy from your body. Then again to each their own... if you see things differently then you are certainly entitled... I just wanted to bring a different look at things to maybe help explaine the original delema.
2006-12-04 [Zab]: Think what you want then I'll think what I want. I think we shouls close the subject now.. :)
2006-12-04 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: I have to completely agree with Erutan. Sorry, i'm budging in on the conversation, but he made some very good points. I struggle with attractions and desires for other men, which I would describe as lust. However, my love for my soon-to-be-hus
2006-12-04 [Zab]: I never said it wasn't, but in my opinion that's because of the same love you have to your closest friends, except that you don't lust for your friends as for your partner.
Meh, I give up. I can't explain myself properly it seems.
2006-12-04 [Acidic Khemica]: 
2006-12-05 [The Chronicles of Faelan]: Yes, everyone has a right to their opinions, and no one has the right to tell you your opinion is wrong. Doesn't matter how wrong it may be to others.
2006-12-05 [No Longer On Here]: I understand where you are coming from but alot of people see lust as a physical bond to their mental states for one another. I am not stating you are wrong in any shape or fashion I am just informing you of how a majority of the people see this issue. Life is complex and we all have faults in our beliefs. That is life and how we choose to live it - is our choice. No one is perfect in their beliefs and your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses.
2006-12-05 [No Longer On Here]: And Zab I also understand what you are trying to portray. You love your friends but it's purely platonic whereas you love your partner romantically - both a formality dealing with love. Platonic deals with primarily the friendship based form of love which doesn't involve lust but romantically lust and love play a vivid role with one another. Like that of the two main characters in a book or play. It's all how you look at it. You just have to specify those feelings of love - platonic/roman
2006-12-05 [No Longer On Here]: Sorry I'm like butter...I'm on a roll *drum rolls* xD
2006-12-05 [Zab]: All I'm saying is that to make a relationship with a partner, you need lust. Without lust you don't want to have sex with him/her, and without that wanting it's not a relationship of that kind. Then you need love too.
I also say that you can have the exactly same relation with a friend, but without wanting sex with him/her. And thus, I see the lust as the differense.
I have no idea if you tried to say that because now I'm way too tired of all this to even care anymore and I won't comment here untill the discussion is about something else. You think I'm wrong, or right, or partially right, I just don't care anymore, I think what I think and that's it. Feel free to keep talking about this as long as you want but now I'm leaving the discussion, it just makes me frustrated and foul mooded.
2006-12-05 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: I'm sorry Zab, I never meant it as a personal attack. It's just that it sounded different to me. I'm sorry.
2006-12-06 [Erutan]: I never in any way tried to tell you that your opinion of this matter is wrong or right... they way you have described it before did make any sense to me... that is why I thought I would add my two cents in... However, it was not my intention to upset you. In the very beginning I told you; "to each their own" and just as Sensual temptation and Fuzzy Dead Mousey said... everyone will have their own belief and not every belief in it self... when presented to others will be right... and that is what makes this world worth living in... the multitude of beliefs is vastly unappreciated. Either way I too will let this conversation go…
2006-12-06 [Balthizar]: *opens mouth and then closes*......*
2006-12-06 [shirono]: I like cherry pie *coughs* don't want to interrupt, but just want to say *jumps up and down*
I STARTED A WIKI!
Shirono and her stories
there's only one story on there and it's not finished yet, but it probably will be by tomorrow.
2006-12-06 [No Longer On Here]: I'm not sure if I had a personal attack o.O but hey whatever.
2006-12-06 [Balthizar]: We be talking about Pie's now...
2006-12-06 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: I like.... lemon merengue pie. >) and pumpkin. yummmm
2006-12-06 [No Longer On Here]: I like gooseberry pie.
2006-12-06 [shirono]: gooseberry pie? What is that?
2006-12-07 [*(.Randi.)*]: You don't know what gooseberry pie is?? It is soooo good!
2006-12-07 [♥Lex;;™]: i dont either!?
2006-12-07 [The Chronicles of Faelan]: in response to you fuzzy, Lust is more a form of desire than anything else, like love you long for something more, but lust is more a need for sex or some form of sexual pleasure.
2006-12-07 [Rainbows And Scene Kids]: Ok Lala. Molly Doesnt Like Negative Vibes.
Lets Dance...
2006-12-07 [No Longer On Here]: In my mind lust is a way to express love. BUt aye that's just me, maybe I'm just a whore. :)
2006-12-07 [Brought to You By The Letter G]: 2006-12-05 Zab: All I'm saying is that to make a relationship with a partner, you need lust. Without lust you don't want to have sex with him/her
In response to this, I think what you mean is chemistry. You're right, in order for a relationship to work, you do need to be attracted to the other person, however, there is a difference between lust and chemistry. Lust is an uncontrollable need to have sex with someone, whereas chemistry is an attraction to another person. There is a big difference. Society has views of the meaning behind certain words, and although you can use lust to refer to chemistry, throwing around lust like that could get you into trouble.
2006-12-07 [Zab]: Can't you just leave it? I've expressed my wish to close the topic, or at least leave me out from it. I don't agree, deal with it. ><
Throwing around lust like that? You act as if I'm whoring on the streets and begging men to screw me. Now, this time I will not answer to more comments..I'll unwatch this wiki.
(I might act childish..but I'm fed up and at least I admit it. I want nothing to do with this discussion anymore, because it makes me feel bad and annoyed and it's not worth it. Think what you want.)
2006-12-08 [*(.Randi.)*]: Whatever happened to Gooseberry pie?
2006-12-08 [a faerie tale]: Went boom.
2006-12-08 [♥Lex;;™]: yeah... no1 answerd the ?... what is GOOSEBERRY PIE PPL?! I WANNA KNOW TOO! lol..
2006-12-08 [Tay.]: dang it...third time this week
2006-12-08 [Rainbows And Scene Kids]: noone danced either.
Aye mama we're all crazzeeee now. Slade...?
2006-12-08 [The Chronicles of Faelan]: *Dances* what am I dancing for *has no idea what he's dancing for* o.O
2006-12-08 [Tay.]: YAAY! *joins in dancing*
2006-12-08 [Balthizar]: I likes Zab...and now Zab is gone...Whole point of the pie discussion is so the dumb lust one would be over.*sighs*
2006-12-08 [No Longer On Here]: I don't see what is so wrong with an actual debate every once in awhile...usual
But anywho each to their own..
2006-12-08 [Balthizar]: Debating is good and all. But when one side says they are done, and then the other side continues, ignoring that, then its not so much of a debate anymore is it?
2006-12-08 [The Chronicles of Faelan]: Oooo, Ooo, I know, *stops dancing around like a fool and jumps arpound like a lunatic* let's have a debate about debating =) *starts dancing with [speaksies] again* =)
2006-12-08 [Tay.]: a debate about debating? Wouldn't that be kinda hard??
SWEEEET!! *continues dancing*
2006-12-08 [♥Lex;;™]: oo i wanna debate about debating!... pleaasse! idk i just wanna talk about something interestin.. o i have something.. my ex gf... she cheated on me the night of my bday.. w. my bestgf... then 3months later i still cant get over her! and she doesnt love me like i do her... and 2 days ago we were talking about her ex.. .and she told me she hates her cuz she treats her like shit... and then now... today i talked to her.. and theyre trying to find an appt w/ eachother... bcuz her ex got dumped by her gf... what the hell is that all about??? im so pissed... and barb does treat her like shit! and it pisses me off that my ex keeps going back after her.. when i know she knows shes gonna get dumped so hard that she wont even know what hit her... so.... why does she even try... i want her and im there for her... but she obviously doesnt want me for some damn reason! and when she cheated on me she was all like "i didnt mean for u to get hurt... i love you and im srry... u deserve better" and im tryin to give her another chance cuz i cant stop thinkin about her.. im crzy for her... ahhh help! what do i do?? im desperate for help!
2006-12-08 [devil999]: Hey all waz going on?
2006-12-08 [♥Lex;;™]: a lot! i think someone should read my prob! grr... im frikin frustrated!!!!
2006-12-08 [devil999]: why are you ok?
2006-12-08 [♥Lex;;™]: grrr... noo!!! i feel put down... hated... stupid.. pissed 
! and lonely...
2006-12-08 [devil999]: I don't think ppl hate you. Why do you think you are stupid?
2006-12-08 [♥Lex;;™]: my ex... i wrote a whole... like half - 3/4 of a page thing up there about whats goin on.... ^
2006-12-08 [devil999]: I c. I'm sorry things didn't work. Well I have to get back to classe so ttyl.
2006-12-08 [♥Lex;;™]: aww ok... ttyl.... 
2006-12-08 [*(.Randi.)*]: I don't quite understand what you want help on?
2006-12-08 [♥Lex;;™]: omfg i just deleted everything i was writing... and it was like long! damnit! i hate life! grrrrrrr!
2006-12-09 [I'm her Georgia *Peach!*]: hmm... sounds like a situation I know... but different... oO;; hm. >< let me seeeee..... *goes into closet of stuff*
...I think...you need to be more independant. ^^ like, find a way on your own and be strong on your own. don't be all worried about her all the time. Give her breathing room (heh, I don't know the situation. If I'm wrong, ignore this) ...but anyways, even if you love her, devote yourself to your work or something else for a while. Then, if she ever comes back to you, greet her with open arms, and be warm and caring, but don't cling. Clingyness= BAAAD.
uhmmm..... hm. so yeah. Try to be all 'independant' and stuff. If you find someone else, good for you. Don't be afraid to. If not, okay, fine. whatever. Devote yourself to your work for a while, and not love. Now. What I mean is... yeah. I've said it.
Orrr... you can pull her back and have her look at the relationship and realise it's a hunk'a'junk. =/ this is harder, and a bajillion times riskier, coz she might hate you, and accuse you of trying to split the two apart. You know the situation and person best. You choose. One, the other, or neither. ^^ It doesn't matter. I'm just throwing this out there. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW IT.
2006-12-09 [The Chronicles of Faelan]: lol [Sealsies] you are areally good dancer =) *is haveing fun*
2006-12-09 [*(.Randi.)*]: [Tay.]*
2006-12-09 [♥Lex;;™]: omg! i am in love w. my ex bf... and i havent gotten over him in 6 years.. and i just saw him last night... and yeah hes yeah
2006-12-10 [The Chronicles of Faelan]: lol that's the one :P. Ohh in love with an ex? what fun.
2006-12-10 [♥Lex;;™]: omg! ne1 wanna see what he look like.. check out my prof... k?
2006-12-10 [Rainbows And Scene Kids]: i have a problem too...
Can someone help?
ok so.
Im bi, to start, i had a gf who was like my best mate and we broke up cause i was going abroad, now in my new town, im not out, sexuality equality isnt a big thing here, anyway, there is this guy here who i really like and he is my mate. i dunno what to do cause im stil so hung up on my ex gf that it almost kills me. but hes sooo cute and opinionated...
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