2009-12-11 [Xuan.]: ...since this is the mommies of elftown, i'm pretty sure i just passed my mucus plug...

2009-12-11 [moira hawthorne]: fun stuff! keep it - it'll make something fun to put in a slingshot later! lol

2009-12-11 [Xuan.]: that is disgustingly halarious lol. :]

2009-12-11 [moira hawthorne]: isnt it tho!?!?1 you got a special enemy you want to really gross out?

2009-12-11 [Pretaya]: Eeewwweee!!! That's disgusting!

2009-12-11 [moira hawthorne]: ofcourse it is... thats why its funny

2009-12-11 [Pretaya]: That's funny to you? That sounds rather vengeful to me.

2009-12-11 [moira hawthorne]: =D ... and who said vengeful cant be funny?

2009-12-11 [†Sweets†]: are we all getting along?

2009-12-11 [Xuan.]: hahahahah. I'd throw it at a friend, and not consider it vengeful at all. bahahaha. But then again i really don't want someone trying to put their boogers on me or anythign else so i don't think I'll do it.

2009-12-11 [Pretaya]: We're getting along. I'm just like "eeewwweee..."

2009-12-11 [moira hawthorne]: wait till we get to plans for the afterbirth! lol

2009-12-12 [Xuan.]: my oldest nephew says he's selling the child and eating the afterbirth as part of some sick ritual.

2009-12-12 [Pretaya]: That's pretty gross. I'm sorry. Eeewwweee, afterbirth.

2009-12-12 [moira hawthorne]: fry it up with some onions! yummy!

MN you are just so fun to tease1

2009-12-12 [Pretaya]: Gross!

How am I fun to tease? I know that childbirth is beautiful but my word is it messy.

2009-12-12 [moira hawthorne]: most animals eat the afterbirth... for several very good reason... nutrition being just one!

2009-12-12 [Pretaya]: I understand that, it's just not really accepted as a practice in the human society.

2009-12-12 [moira hawthorne]: there no law against it... you can simple request in at the hospital if thats where you have your baby if you dont have a home birth...

2009-12-12 [Xuan.]: actually, some cultures do eat the after birth. i do believe it's one of the asian cultures.

2009-12-13 [Duke Devlin]: It is actually quite common that people eat the afterbirth.

2009-12-13 [moira hawthorne]: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4918290.stm
in this article it claims... There is a Hawaiian tradition that the placenta should be planted with a tree, which would then grow alongside the child - and parents have been angered when hospitals have obstructed them from taking the placenta.
... actually that a common pagan tradition... and thats actually what we did with my son's!!!

2009-12-13 [Duke Devlin]: Wow, I've never actually spoken to someone who did! :) That sounds like a lovely idea though.

2009-12-13 [moira hawthorne]: Eirikr's oak has had some struggles with both squirrels and insane retarded bitch neighbours but is growin strong and tall still

2009-12-13 [Pretaya]: I'm a pagan but there are some traditions that I choose to shy away from. What I meant (and should have said) is eating afterbirth is not widely accepted in American culture. Notice how I said widely and accepted together. Yes, there are a few cultures in American society that still partake of eating afterbirth, but over all people in this country frown upon eating afterbirth. And in this particular bias, I happen to agree with.

2009-12-13 [Pretaya]: I might agree with planting the placenta, but never eating it. We went from eating to planting. I agree with planting anything, but there are some things I would never do and that is to eat something that came out of my womb. Our original topic was eating afterbirth.

2009-12-14 [moira hawthorne]: Im tempted some days (when conteplating our food bill) to eat my son.... it be cheeper than continuing to feed him

2009-12-14 [Duke Devlin]: LMAO Moira, that's amazing. XD You're awesome. XP
Also, MusicalNeed (<3), I quite agree with you. It's quite a beautiful tradition to plant the afterbirth, however I would never consider eating it (and that's not simply because I reside in a British culture in which it is widely frowned upon), simply because it is what nourished my child - it is almost a part of my child. To me, it would feel like I am eating a part of my child. =/

2009-12-14 [Pretaya]: Moira...I have to say eeewwwee!!!

Duke, that is soooooooooo sweet.

2009-12-14 [Duke Devlin]: Why thank ya ;D

2009-12-14 [moira hawthorne]: hahaha... you are almost as much fun as teasin my son

2009-12-14 [Pretaya]: Duke- You're very welcome.
Moira- I don't believe in teasing one's own child.

2009-12-14 [moira hawthorne]: lol.... you aint a mother yet... and you still of the teasin age

2009-12-14 [Duke Devlin]: MusicalNeed: she doesn't mean it in a bad way! :P I'm sure. :)

2009-12-15 [†Sweets†]: Moria, Musical, get along.

2009-12-15 [moira hawthorne]: lol... you are misguided if you think i am doing naught be getting along... lol... just b/c im teasing the cat doesnt not mean im not playing nice... the lady does protest too much... she brings it on herself... if she wasnt so much fun to tease i would of gotten bored long ago

2009-12-15 [Xuan.]: Baby's lung's are mature enough :] Waiting on the Ob to call me to tell me when they'll induce. today or tomorrow :]

2009-12-15 [Duke Devlin]: The lady doth protest too much, methinks. <3 I love Hamlet. <3
Awhh :) Good, Xuan. <3

2009-12-15 [moira hawthorne]: lungs are tricky... better to let the baby bake longer

2009-12-15 [Duke Devlin]: That's true - I mean, I wouldn't know, but that seems to male sense. :) But then again, it's up to the Ob more. XD They know for sure what they are doing. =]

2009-12-15 [moira hawthorne]: gotta wonder tho if the rise in child with asthma and allergies has anything to do with the doctors' eagerness to rush nature

2009-12-15 [Xuan.]: hah. mama is rushing nature this time around. and trust me if you had the issues i'm having, you wouldn't mind having her taken out with the help of a couple of tests to confirm that she'll be fine. 

2009-12-15 [Xuan.]: oh, AND it's a high risk pregnancy, it may be extremely fatal to carry her passed this week.

2009-12-15 [sequeena_rae]: [Xuan.] it's no-one's business but your own what you do, this is your baby ;) good luck hun x

2009-12-16 [Pretaya]: I'll send positive thought and prayer your way, Xuan. I hope everthing goes well for you and the baby. My friend had to have a cesarean section because her baby was high risk. I hope they don't have to get that drastic with you.
You're right, I'm not a biological mother yet...I should be *Sad face*

2009-12-16 [Duke Devlin]: I hope all goes well, Xuan. :)

2009-12-16 [Pretaya]: Xuan, how do you pronounce your screen name? Is it like Xuan (z-oo-ahn) or something more like Xuan (ex-oo-ahn)? I'm sorry for my curious nature.

2009-12-16 [moira hawthorne]: well the name is a reaL CHINESE NAME ... SO SHE COULD BE PRONOUNIN IT CORRECTLY... (DAMN TIRED caplock) http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/xuan

excuse me but I need sleep

2009-12-17 [Duke Devlin]: Actually, I'm interested - is it as Moira indicated? :)

2009-12-19 [Pretaya]: You're interested as well?

2009-12-19 [Xuan.]: It's Vietnamese. :] sort of like sung, g is a little silent, and the s has sort of a z sound to it. if i'm making any sense at all.

Cecilia Tran Horizon Sisk born Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. weighed 6 lbs 6 oz., 20 inches long. :]

Have a newborn pic up on my page

2009-12-19 [sequeena_rae]: Congrats! :D

2009-12-19 [Xuan.]: thankyou :]

2009-12-19 [Pretaya]: Congratulations...are you happy to have your little one in your arms now?

2009-12-19 [Xuan.]: I am verryyy happy. I don't want to let her go, but I don't want to spoil her either. She is so cute in her little "daddy's princess" outfit. She's too tall for premies, but her body is too small for newborn's lol.

2009-12-19 [moira hawthorne]: you cant spoil her at that age! hold her all you want... remember she been held inside you all her life so far.. dont stop now!!! congratz to you and her.

2009-12-20 [Pretaya]: Welcome her to the world for me and I'm so happy that there were no serious complications in the birthing proccess. Give her a sweet little kiss on the cheek for me.

2009-12-20 [Xuan.]: :] thankyou both.

i'm holding her now. she's a lil' piggy

2009-12-20 [Pretaya]: You're welcome, sweetheart.

2009-12-24 [haldirrox]: um...this'll probably sound silly, but...how do I change the description-thingy next to my name?

2009-12-24 [moira hawthorne]: either by clickin EDIT or EDIT PAGE

2009-12-25 [Pretaya]: That would be something I would ask.

2009-12-26 [†Sweets†]: What do you need to change? I'll do it.

2009-12-26 [Pretaya]: I don't need to change anything, I'm just sort of computer illiterate.

2009-12-27 [†Sweets†]: lol. I was talking to Jessica, Jose.

2009-12-27 [Pretaya]: I'm sorry.

2009-12-27 [†Sweets†]: for what?

2009-12-28 [Xuan.]: I love being a mommy. 11 days and counting :]

2009-12-28 [moira hawthorne]: we went to my nephew's Kick's 4th birthday today and there was two other babys there as well... Wolvie and Quey's 2 mth old daughter Mihn and other couple I didnt know and their daughter who was 8 mths old... I got to hold and coo over little ones... funfun.. while my 9 yr old son ran wild with his cousin about the house

2009-12-28 [Xuan.]: haha. on Christmas day my older sister was over to love on my little one, then when I got her back her youngest son (her baby) climbed up into her lap and she cradled him. I thought it was cute b/c her youngest is almost 9 now, and is super tall. :] 

2009-12-29 [Pretaya]: I don't know what I was sorry for.

That is so cute. No matter how old someoe is, they will always need their mom. I'll always need my mom, that's for sure.

2009-12-29 [†Sweets†]: I see Carter on Friday :)

2009-12-30 [Pretaya]: YAY!!!

2009-12-30 [haldirrox]: I tried the edit page, but it was not what I wanted. I need to add the gender, due date, and name. Cuz right now it just says "expecting". Sorry I haven't been on in so long, guys. I've ben insanely busy. But I'm getting a baby shower, so I'm uber happy!!!

2009-12-30 [†Sweets†]: lol it happens babe

2009-12-31 [Pretaya]: Congratulations, hal!

2010-01-20 [~Crimson Angel~]: I've been gone to long.

2010-01-21 [Pretaya]: That, you have.

2010-01-21 [haldirrox]: lol. I'm coming down to the wire here. I'm due Feb. 8. I got the sheets put in his crib, and I had my baby shower last Saturday. His mobile's all up and everything. It's all Winnie The Pooh. I love it! It looks so cute with his white crib.

I'm so freakin' scared! I'm excited too, but God, I'm terrified. I guess everybody is with their first, but for me, this happened a few years ahead of schedule, and there's no husband to help out. Sure, I've got my mom, but it's not the same, ya know? I'm really looking forward to meeting my son, but sometimes it just hits me, and I get terrified.

2010-01-22 [Kyrinn]: My boy was born February 13. :3 I was scared too, but when it came down to it, I was so focused on getting through labor that the time just flew by. Ill admit it was the hardest thing Ive ever done but it was sure worth it. Ill keep you in my thoughts, [haldirrox]. :)

2010-01-23 [~Crimson Angel~]: It's scary the first time for everyone I think, I've asked my mom and her friends that have kids and all have said they were scared the first time.

2010-01-23 [moira hawthorne]: not everyone... seriously I wasnt scared... I loved being pregnant and I remember being impatient to birth... special after the due date past... but I coned Bill into feeding me cheesecake as a 'make the baby come magic'!!! how good is that? and tho the birth was painful and irritating b/c he got stuck... took after his dad in head size... he should of been a proper 15 min birth like every other child in my family! but I was more pissed off at the stupid nurses for thinkin they could tell me what to do... they learnt quick that didnt work... I yelled and Bill enforced my demands... I had a totally natural birth... other than it being in a hospital... no drugs no iv no needles no tying me down... and no one ordered me around... I was the one in control so why should I be scared?

2010-01-23 [~Crimson Angel~]: Ok well I guess only my mom and her friends were scared the first time.

2010-01-23 [moira hawthorne]: unfortunately not... society still want women to be helpless... so it instills fear

but its all about attitude... there is less reason to be scared than empowered... just think of all the thousands of successful births that led to yours... and therefore your child's... you are the genetic product of women who succeeded.

2010-01-24 [~Crimson Angel~]: That's a great view point, I won't be scared, I'll be excited.

2010-01-24 [Xuan.]: I just had my little one December 16. i was induce because of complications, I was timid, but mainly because I became so impatient towards the end. I had an epidural, and honestly there wasn't any pain at all, all I could feel was pressure w/ no pain from her head. OF course when the epidural wore off it hurt because I had second degree laceration, but more than it hurting, it was just frustrating not being able to walk good because of the epidural's effects. But when my baby was five days old I was already at the grocery store shopping for groceries. ^_^. I pray that things go just as easily for any of you who may be pregnant now. Just remember, women do it ALLLL the time.

2010-01-24 [moira hawthorne]: if they didnt... there be alot less of us...

2010-01-24 [Pretaya]: I'll keep you in my thoughts, hal...I'm a natural born mother but I'm afraid to have children because of my genetics. I am not afraid of being a mother at all.

2010-01-24 [XxTsomexX]: I can't wait to be a mother myself, but I made a pact with my dad that I wouldn't have kids until he was 50. So I have to wait until I am 23 :D

2010-01-25 [Kyrinn]: Im glad I waited as long as I did to have my first child. :) I didnt have an epidural but they gave me something to ease my stress (helped out nicely) and ended up delivering naturally for the most part. I was so happy to have a baby at long last, lol.. 

2010-01-26 [Xuan.]: I could barely wait to have my little one. :] My husband and I both were abstinent until we married, and we converted catholicism not too long after that, about five months after we got married we were pregnant. :]

2010-01-26 [moira hawthorne]: he got pregnant!!! amazing!

2010-01-26 [Pretaya]: *giggles*

2010-01-26 [Kyrinn]: My son was karate-chopping his dad from month four on. XD Hilarious, lol

2010-01-26 [~Crimson Angel~]: *giggles*

2010-01-26 [Xuan.]: lol. It takes two to get pregnant. ^_^ My daughter knew her daddy's voice by the time I felt her move. She reacted to his voice, and didn't want to sleep until he came home. She also went crazy if any male voice talked too loudly or too much. Now if my dad, husband, or nephew talk too loudly or too much she will let out one small short scream. It's too cute.

2010-01-26 [moira hawthorne]: it take s 2 to get one pregnant... its odd math... 2=1=3

2010-01-26 [haldirrox]: It's not the birth I'm afraid of, other than I'm worried about my stamina. It's the after. Don't get me wrong. I totally can't wait, but it's when I realize that I don't have a guy around to help, I get really scared and start going, what if I do it all wrong, and what if I'm a bad mom? I know I've got my mom here to help me, but it's just not the same.

2010-01-27 [Fallen Child Athena]: I'm goin to be an Aunt/Godmom!

2010-01-27 [~Crimson Angel~]: Hal, you can always take parenting classes if you want, but just love your baby with all your heart and I'm sure your mom can help with the feeding and changing and stuff if you need it, and one day you'll meet a guy that will love both you and your baby.

2010-01-27 [~Crimson Angel~]: Congrats on being an aunt/godmother Veari.

2010-01-27 [Fallen Child Athena]: Thanks Misty :D

2010-01-27 [Pretaya]: Congratulations, playful!!! Hal, I don't think that you are capable of being a bad mother. My friend was afraid of the same thing but she said that as soon as she had her baby in her arms, mommy sense kicked in and doing everything necessary for her child became instinctually. You'll get it!

2010-01-28 [moira hawthorne]: all good parents fear that they wont be good parents... the fear drives the effort

2010-01-28 [Fallen Child Athena]: Thanks :D My sister is scaed to death though

2010-01-28 [~Crimson Angel~]: Why Veari?

2010-01-28 [Fallen Child Athena]: Its her first baby

2010-01-28 [~Crimson Angel~]: I'm sure everything will be fine.

2010-01-29 [Fallen Child Athena]: Me too :D

2010-01-29 [Pretaya]: I concurr!

2010-01-29 [~Crimson Angel~]: Smile! :D

2010-01-29 [Fallen Child Athena]: She miscarried :(

2010-01-29 [~Crimson Angel~]: Oh, I'm sorry Veari.*hugs*

2010-01-29 [Fallen Child Athena]: ~hugs back~

2010-01-29 [~Crimson Angel~]: Tell your sister I'm sorry.

2010-01-29 [Fallen Child Athena]: I shall, Misty

2010-01-29 [~Crimson Angel~]: Good.

2010-01-29 [Fallen Child Athena]: ~sighs~

2010-01-29 [~Crimson Angel~]: *huggles you tightly*

2010-01-29 [Pretaya]: *hugs playful* I'm so sorry, wish her well for me.

2010-01-29 [Fallen Child Athena]: I shall Mus

2010-01-29 [Pretaya]: Thank you and I hope you are well.

2010-01-30 [~Crimson Angel~]: *nods*

2010-01-30 [Pretaya]: *smiles*

2010-02-01 [Fallen Child Athena]: She didnt miscarry!!!

2010-02-01 [Bella HeartAttack]: yay

2010-02-01 [Fallen Child Athena]: :D Yep

2010-02-01 [Pretaya]: YAY!!!

2010-02-01 [~Crimson Angel~]: Yay!!! I bet she was relieved.

2010-02-02 [Fallen Child Athena]: Yep :D

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: I would be too.

2010-02-02 [~Crimson Angel~]: Me too.

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: I would love to be ready for a child right now.

2010-02-02 [~Crimson Angel~]: Me too.

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: I'm so excited to have the ability to feel that kind of love.

2010-02-02 [~Crimson Angel~]: That's great.

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: *smiles* Yeah.

2010-02-02 [~Crimson Angel~]: I can't wait to be a mom.

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: It will be an amazing experience.

2010-02-02 [~Crimson Angel~]: Yeah, I agree.

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: *smiles*

2010-02-02 [~Crimson Angel~]: *smiles* Want something to drink?

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: Yay! Drink! Can we have milk?

2010-02-02 [~Crimson Angel~]: Sure, regular, chocolate, or strawberry?

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: Regular...I love milk.

2010-02-02 [~Crimson Angel~]: Me too, my dad teases me about it. *hands you a glass of regular milk*

2010-02-02 [moira hawthorne]: Im 45 and I drink 3 or 4 glasses of milk a day

2010-02-02 [Pretaya]: I used to drink a gallon of milk in three days alone...I can't do that anymore. *sad face* *takes the glass of milk and puts two straws in the glass for us*

2010-02-03 [Fallen Child Athena]: My boyfriend and I are talking bout kids

2010-02-03 [Pretaya]: How long have the two of you been together?

2010-02-03 [Fallen Child Athena]: A week but this is the second time we've been together

2010-02-03 [~Crimson Angel~]: Really Veari, that's great! *smiles*

2010-02-03 [Fallen Child Athena]: You already knew Misty xD

2010-02-04 [Pretaya]: Wow...congratulations. I hope it works out this time.

2010-02-04 [~Crimson Angel~]: I know.

2010-02-04 [Fallen Child Athena]: Metoo

2010-02-04 [Pretaya]: *crosses my fingers for you*

2010-02-04 [Gypsy Mystik]: *tackle hugs everyone*

2010-02-04 [Gypsy Mystik]: Meow!

2010-02-04 [Pretaya]: *hugs you back*

2010-02-04 [Gypsy Mystik]: Yeah ^_^

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *dances*

2010-02-05 [Gypsy Mystik]: Meow!! ^_^

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *dances with Misty*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: Meow! *pounces*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *giggles and rolls around with you*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: Mew! *rubs against you*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *pets you*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *purrs and rolls onto my back*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *pulls you up onto my chest and keeps petting you*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *purrs and nuzzles you*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *giggles and wraps my arms around you*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: Mew! *nuzzles*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *nuzzles back*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *licks your nose and flicks my tail*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *gives you an eskimo kiss*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *purrs* Mew!

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *kisses the top of your head*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *licks your nose* Mew!

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *smiles and rubs down your back*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *flicks my tail and purrs*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *runs my fingers through your hair*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *purrs and nuzzles you*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *lets you nuzzle me and nuzzles right back*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *sniffs* I smell tuna!

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *Grabs a can of tuna from the pantry and starts feeding it to you*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: Yum! *eats it and purrs*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *kisses you after feeding you*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *purrs and kisses you*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *entwines my fingers with yours*

2010-02-05 [~Crimson Angel~]: *does the same as I smile*

2010-02-05 [Pretaya]: *smiles back and looks into your eyes*

2010-02-06 [†Sweets†]: ...what's going on?

2010-02-06 [~Crimson Angel~]: Huh?

2010-02-06 [Pretaya]: What do you mean what's going on, Jessa?

2010-02-07 [†Sweets†]: are you two flirting?

2010-02-08 [~Crimson Angel~]: *blushes*

2010-02-08 [Pretaya]: *blushes along with Misty*

2010-02-08 [Fallen Child Athena]: That's a yes xD

2010-02-08 [†Sweets†]: lol you two are so cute.