2007-01-28 [xido]: Let's co-create a template on this page for all pages.

I like the slimmer dividers you use on Dracology:
DracologyTemplate
Dragons - Biology, Sociology, and Magic

See Draconic Personality and Sociology for first attempt.

2007-02-17 [xido]: [#tags] and inter-wiki [#tags]

From Ps-html guide:
Linking to parts of your house/wiki

Write [#] on the bottom of your house/wiki and you will be taken back to the top of the page.
Example: [#]

You can also have links that will take you to a specific section on your house/wiki. Just like you see on this wiki.
The link you want to be clickable is to be written like this: [#sectionname]. The name you insert there can be anything you like, but best would be if it tells you where you will be taken if you click it.
The section you want to be taken to also needs a link. You write the link above that section like this:
<#sectionname>
The links will need the same name to be able to work.
If you afterwards look at the wiki, you will only see the clickable links. The links that you wrote in the sections are not seen.

You can also write a link to a part of a wiki somewhere else. Thus you can link to a part of a wiki by writing a link on your house/wiki.
The clickable link doesn't just contain the sectionname now, but also has to direct you to the wiki. The link therefore should be written like this:
[wikiname@wiki#sectionname]
In the section of the wiki you want to be taken to you also write:
<#sectionname>

Note2: Do note use ' in the link, or it will not work. So don't has to become dont for it to work.


template:dracologytemplate
D@:Dracology
draco_tp
Try and keep a distinction between:
recent ideas and older ideas VS Earth and Fantasy:::

A wyvern would be kept to the older mythology section whereas the types of dragon in harry potter to the new section.."

Pegasus format:

Anatomy - Draconic Anatomy : Dragon Biology and Physical Features
RPG Info - Dragons in Roleplaying Games : True Dragons, Draconic Races
Film/Media - Dragons in Film, Stories, & Media : Dragon Artwork and Media, Dragon Gallery, Elfwood / the Elfwood Selections
creatures - Dragonkin & Draconic Kith : races, lineage, drakes/linnorms/etc., Draconic Races
poetry/writing - Draconic Poetry & Scripture : Book of Dragons, Draconic Language and Script, poetry, stories, writing
Dragon Artwork and Media : Dragon Gallery, linked to art/media pages and online communities/networks

Forum: >>> <forum:secret forum> <<<

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Dracology:

[ArchangelGabriel], [Penguinlord], [xido], [Nicolai Antredias], [The Dizzy Raven]

- Dragon Handbook
o Species of Dragon
 Lung
 Wyvern
 Knucker
 Great Western
 Lindworm
 Amphithere
 Worms / Wyrms / Wyrm / Great Wyrm
 Basilisk/Cockatrice
 Salamander
 Laidley Worm
 Amphisbaena
 Hydra
 Scylla
 Kappas / Kappa
 Komodo Dragon
 Leviathan / Leviathon
 Behemoth
o Dragon Hunting (4 sub-pages – classroom tactical methods and tips)
o Dragon Probability (1 sub-page – Principle for Dragon’s existence)
o Dragon Biology (4 sub-pages – topics on earth dragon biology) and <poll:181>
o Ancient Dracology (5 sub-pages – ancient cultures’ beliefs in dragon-like creatures)
o Dragons of Literature (2 References – add ‘The Hobbit’ by Tolkien)
o Dragons Tails (7 sub-pages – move to Ancient Dracology) / Dragon Tails / Dragon Tales / Dragons Tales / Dragon-Tales
- Dracologists
o Members List--->
o <joinforum:1050:Dracology> (Wrong secret forum password to the forum number 1050)
o Dracology Test
o Dracology Banners
- Dragons Riddles (2 sub-pages – dragons’ riddles)
- Dragon Quotes (2 sub-pages – quotes from dragons and Dracologists)
- Dragons in the Field (compile pages into sections on dragon species habitats)
- Dracology FAQs (add ‘Old’ sub-page back into FAQs – edit and research)
- Dragon Gallery (9 sub-pages – member and Elfwood member artworks)
- Dracology Polls (7 sub-pages – polls on varied dragon interests)
- Dracology Comments (include full schematic of pages/sub-pages)
- Dracology Bibliography (add AA Dragons Class disclaimer / D&D reference)
- Dragon Links (lots of great pages/sub-pages/links!)
- *Notices*
- DracologyTemplate
- Are Dragons Warm or Cold Blooded?
- Dracology Test
- Dragonology

Dragons – Biology, Sociology, and Magic:

- Dragon Biology and Physical Features
- Draconic Personality and Sociology
- Draconic Language and Script
o Draconic Alphabet
o Aarknorian Draconic Alphabet / Dragon Scrawls by [Dr.Mandarian]
- Draconic Magic and Arcane Bloodline
- True Dragons
- Earth Realm Dragons
- Androntel Academy
- Elftown Graphics / Dracology Graphics
- Dragon Artwork and Media
- Dragons – Class Grading and Degrees
- Dragon for the Creature List
- Dragons – the old Elftown Academy classroom

Draconic Clan - Clan of Elftown Member Dragons:
- Draconic Representatives
- ECM : Elftown Creature Marathon : ECM Dragon

2007-02-17 [xido]: First we need a title graphic (and yes, please more than just the word Dracology.... shape, form, something). It should be transparent. Let me ask Artsie if she will help us.
-will

2007-02-18 [Artsieladie]: Oh my word! Do we use the extended comment section or do we? lol *waves* I'm here. I like the graphics you've chosen here thus far, but I agree with transparent backgrounds are better. No problem if you need images made as such. Just tell me what you want done with transparent backgrounds & I'll do them. Always glad to help if & when I can! :D

2007-02-18 [Artsieladie]: Ummm...not that I like forums, b/c I really don't, but is there a forum for these Creatures' Project? O..o

2007-03-06 [xido]: Actually, yes, there are currently two. I would like to turn it into one forum: Draconic Clan (the forum is on there, by the edit button. should I add you?)

2007-03-06 [Artsieladie]: If you think I can help in some way, then I have no objections. Have you looked at Xidogasus' Workshop lately? Transparency. :)
---> <URL:stuff/DracologyText250_test2.png>
---> <URL:stuff/DracologyTransPlate300_test2.png>
I'm working on some sort of idea along rhe lines of having the word "dracology" within an image of a dragon or perhaps within the outline of a dragon. :P

2007-03-08 [xido]: I saw that and commented on the page.
Anything we come up with here will be interchangeable in Draconic Clan and the future ECM Dragon session.

2007-03-08 [xido]: Could you make us a pretty transparent button similar or in place of the one up top, too? A transparent button may have to come after the title-bar or image, if you need a motif to run with first. Maybe something like the flame () but in a spiral/circle....  neat. :P

2007-03-10 [Artsieladie]: Ok, do you mean a "spiral" or a "helix"?
Transparencies:
   
It's a bit trickier to work with tiny images, but here are these, anyway. :)

2007-03-10 [xido]: Like a circular (or partial-spiral) fireball. One more curved than the one you transparent-ified, with an outline or little tendrils / flickers. These ones will do for now. Thank you.

2007-03-10 [Artsieladie]: Oh, I think I get it. I don't know how well the details will show, though, in such a tiny image. I'll give it a shot, though. :)

2007-03-20 [xido]: Maybe start larger and shrink with size tags, if we have to. 100x100 pixels or so, and then we can shrink em on ET with the numbers. I've noticed that gifs come out less grainy than pngs when they're shrunk. Have you noticed this?

2007-03-20 [Artsieladie]: Hmmm...Can't say that I have. I'll have to look at the two more closely with this in mind. :P

2007-03-26 [Artsieladie]: Hmmm....the Dracology banner/title's link info says it's a png, but it's not transparent. >?<

2007-03-29 [ArchangelGabriel]: OK, so what have we got so far?

2007-03-31 [xido]: No, it's not transparent because I made it, and my copy of Jasc is lacking in skills.

Lob, so far, we've got the above graphics, and I have outlined the wikipages to be included and organized. I will include all classroom material from my own pages onto yours, and we will split them as we talked about: Earth Dragons (myth, lore, publications, media, spirituality), Fantasy Dragons (myth, RPGs, publications, media), etc.

I can do all of that. Artsie has the graphics working. We still have yet to recreate that font without fuzzing it up. Even mine is grainy-looking. We have transparent bullets.

We should outline which pages will be incorporated as 'Classroom' pages (sectioned into units), and which are purely for information. We will make adequate links to all pages and sub-pages involved, so that it is easy to maneuver. We will also need a full list of pages on its own page. Like a Table of Contents. Our art galleries need to be integrated together, and could be sectioned into categories (sub-pages, listed on one gallery). If you and Artsie would like to worry about our graphics and galleries, I could work on organizing and linking, and together we could come up with the Classroom Units. The Dragon Handbook will end up being the only information that the Classroom will refer to.

Anyways, there is more to come. I will do what I can here shortly.
-will

2007-03-31 [ArchangelGabriel]: Ok, i suggest we finish the template before anything else.

The most important thing to do will be to decide upon codes, i would suggest <hd> to open the draco header, </hd> to close it, <div1> to put in a small divider, <div2> for a medium divider, <div3> for a large divider, <bd> for the bullet, <fd> for the flame and <dracologyt> for the title image

2007-03-31 [ArchangelGabriel]: On a side note, it's important that the dividers are thing and made up two separate graphics, this way when some one is using a small screen the images don't cause the page to spill.

2007-03-31 [ArchangelGabriel]: I think it's very important that we don't use the huge tag, it always looks quite messy..

2007-03-31 [Artsieladie]: If you put the <pre> tag to begin & end, it makes a less "jump-out-at-you" effect, too. I see the new Dracology image. It is a real png I see! Nice & clean & a little thicker, too. A little unevenly cropped, though. I only say this, b/c it will affect the centering of, if you want to center it on a page. One teensy-tinsy question: What happened to the red? :D

2007-04-01 [ArchangelGabriel]: It hasn't been centered, that's why it's off to one side... I just made a new image, i could make a different one if you like

2007-04-02 [xido]: So <hd> signifies a header? How do you know all these codes that are not on the Elftown page for pseudo html? ;D

"Lobsang: On a side note, it's important that the dividers are thing and made up two separate graphics, this way when some one is using a small screen the images don't cause the page to spill."

Is 5 pixels too high? I gave them some editing, to give a little change in the dividers. Edit it as you see fit. I agree, the huge tag is too large for most anything.

I like the transparent title banner. It is a little darker red, but not terrible. It might be nice to give it a little more contrast. And you know what I think would be great? A resting dragon on top of the letters 'RACOLOGY', or on a ledge above them. I think that would be cute and interesting. Even just a dragon head outline would be nice for effect.

We should use the large banner on Dracology's page, and we can size down the title banner for some other pages, I think.

Btw, m'lady, if you want an example of the spiral flame I was imagining, see Magic's Red (Fire) symbol: http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/default.asp?dcmp=ILC-MTGCOMNEW
One major difference: let's make our spiral flame counter-clockwise instead of clockwise.

2007-04-02 [Artsieladie]: When I have a little more time, perhaps, I'll look again. I clicked in the middle & I waited for 35 minutes & it still wasn't loaded. This is why I don't click on all these youtube videos & such. It takes forever & you can't do something else on line in the meanwhile when something else is loading. I hate sitting & twiddling my thumbs. :P

2007-04-02 [ArchangelGabriel]: Trust me, i know pseudo html like the back of my hand - it's not in there.

2007-04-02 [ArchangelGabriel]: If you use the <img:Filename.xxx?x=0&y=80> to resize, that won't make it a live link.

2007-04-03 [xido]: I know you have a slower connection speed, so it's no worries. The fire symbol is also along the side of the viewer, and it looks like a little clockwise spiral fireball inside a circle.

I enjoy your knowledge of these secret codes. ;)

2007-04-03 [ArchangelGabriel]: Well, i've played around with ideas for the flame as you asked. The title at the bottom is a very quick, 5 minute, cobbled together image. Just an idea, i'll want some suggestions before i go further

2007-04-03 [Artsieladie]: Love the new images, [ArchangelGabriel]! Awesome! :D

2007-04-03 [ArchangelGabriel]: i'm not sure the dragon reallty works

2007-04-03 [Artsieladie]: I like the second one better. :D

2007-04-03 [ArchangelGabriel]: That's 'cause it's finished :P I'm not really much of an artist to be honest.. Maybe the wins could do with some work..

2007-04-03 [Artsieladie]: I've been playing around with a dragon, the word & some flame. "Course how it will end is anyone's guess. Even mine! lol

2007-04-04 [ArchangelGabriel]: i think if i do something about the wings it should be ok...

2007-04-04 [Artsieladie]: Hmmm...perhaps some shadowing in the wings in the right places will make the wing look a little more folded? *shruggs*

2007-04-04 [ArchangelGabriel]: good thought

2007-04-04 [Artsieladie]: Yeah, it gives your image a little more depth/perspective.

2007-04-04 [ArchangelGabriel]: Any other suggestions are welcome ^^

2007-04-05 [Artsieladie]: I wouldn't mind, if you'd like for me to, but I hesitate b/c I'm afraid my suggestions might get taken in the wrong way. :P 

2007-04-05 [xido]: I love them all! Along with what is on Xidogasus' Workshop, we have a virtual plethora of images!

I love the third dragon!! (we should have a naming contest for him/her) I also love the flames. You are both VERY talented. Nice work to both sets of images! Wow!

2007-04-18 [xido]:

<DIV1>
   
<DIV1> My choice for title (main page)

Three best bullets:
 
 
 

Art graphics, usable for linking:

<wikiimg:Dracology@wiki:stuff/dracology_title_4.png?x=400>


<wikiimg:Dracology@wiki:stuff/DracologyBanner_test4.png?x=400>

Name That Dragon! Contest >>> Above dragons, and Dragons by *Artsie*

2007-04-24 [xido]: I've noticed that you have not added the 'template:Dracology' part to Dracology, Brian, and that it is still not editable openly. You were hoping to get this page in order first, before trying it out to see how the new graphics look, I take it?

I updated the bullet with the one that stands out the best, and put my header up there. I have never seen the <hd> tag used before, so I was not sure of how to apply it...
-will

2007-04-24 [ArchangelGabriel]: I'm not really around a lot at the moment, due to exams. I might suggest scaling the green dragons down a little and the title up a tad, but otherwise i like that for the main title it's good. I think it might look neater without the div's though...

2007-04-24 [ArchangelGabriel]: I've left a suggestion for navigation at the top of the page. Also, what do you think of maybe using some kind of left/up/right combo to navigate between pages on one level.

2007-04-25 [xido]: "I think it might look neater without the div's though..."

Those will be where the smaller divider graphics will be posted on top and bottom of the green dragons. At least I envisioned it like that.

I like the idea. I have never seen some of these tags. I will have to start leaning fast, huh? ;)

2007-04-28 [ArchangelGabriel]: Sorry, i meant i think it might look neater without having dividers top and bottom...

2007-04-28 [ArchangelGabriel]: Draco_ex

2007-04-28 [ArchangelGabriel]: I think we ought to change the code for the bullets, possibly <b1> and <b2>

2007-04-30 [xido]: That would be fine. I will have to look this all over again, because there is a lot of information to take in here. Great work, Lob.
So, if I post template:draco_tp at the top of any page, and I use these tags, I will have a wikipage like the example page?

I will set up the page tree now. Let me know what you think. ;)
Draco_pages

2007-04-30 [ArchangelGabriel]: That's pretty much it, yeah ^^ Do we want anything on ether side of the title of each page?
Like the flames i currently have...

2007-04-30 [xido]: I relly want to post the gryphon-dragon glyphs, but that is becaue I have been dying to get them posted somewhere since Artsie made them for the Creature_List...

The spiral flame might look nice, but only if there were one going clockwise, and one going counter-clockwise to balance.

I would love some input on the new page distribution if you had something in mind. Otherwise, I will start on organizing that this week. ;)

2007-04-30 [ArchangelGabriel]: I think the green dragons look pretty neat there, i set them up on draco_ex, what do you think?

2007-04-30 [Artsieladie]: If one knows how to tag, they no longer need the reverse. All you have to do is do this:
Image:

<img:stuff/draco_fl3.png>
Now, the image reversed:

<imgL:stuff/draco_fl3.png> (flip left - hence the added "L")

<imgR:stuff/draco_fl3.png> (flip right - hence the added "R")

<imgAR:stuff/draco_fl3.png> (flip upside down - hence the added "AR")

2007-05-01 [ArchangelGabriel]: I reckon the flame is too round dot be used on the end of lines, the green dragons look good with the elftown green and help balance against the reds...