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So here's what happened...

One day in late May of 2004 I was browsing my Elfwood pages to look at comments and whatnot and I happened upon a comment in my Fanart section. The post was made in my comments on my Master Tonberry picture. The message was from a girl, who later became a friend, and her name is Tihana. She left a link in the message that took me to Mediaminer.org and to my dismay, someone had taken a good portion Fof my fanart and was claiming it as their own.

Enter Paine.

At that point though, I didn't know exactly who she was, so I didn't know I'd seen her before. I just thought she was some tarded thief that I could report, have removed and let it go at that. But I started digging and then I started to find other places where my art was being claimed, seemingly by the same person. I tried talking to the thief and asked her to remove my stuff and leave me alone, but we all know how that turned out. :P

After I'd been digging for a while I got fairly pissed because my art was popping up all over the place. She cropped my name off of the picture, or covered it up with her own horrid little signature. I used common knowledge and a little thing called Google to search her out and stop her by contacting admins of the sites she was on, but I suddenly had an epiphony when I discovered her personal site hosted by Angelfire. The information I found there led me to believe that she was the same Paine from Elftown. This [Paine]. I remembered that she had entered into a Final Fantasy contest that I had entered as well. I could tell because she had the same cosplay pictures of herself, in a White Mage Paine costume, as the person in the contest on Elftown. I knew then that this was where she had stolen them from. Not from my Elfwood gallery, but from the contest. Then I remembered, she was kicked out of the contest about a week earlier for art theft. I didn't think to report her to the Elftown guards, seeing as though she wasn't posting any of my work here, and I had only been on Elftown for a few months so I was fairly new here. You can imagine my anger of not being able to do much of anything. She, at that point had started to call herself "Dismal Chocobo" and started posting my Dismal Chocobo all over the place. She made e-mail accounts named after it, AIM and other Instant Messager accounts named after it, forum accounts, art gallery accounts and more, all named after my chocobo. She completely took that from me. Here is the type of comments that she was making when being complemented for my artwork:

"Thanks. I'm glad you like my work. ^^ I worked very hard on it and I'm glad you like it."

"Thank you. I've been drawing for years and I'm happy that you like my art."

"Thanks. My chocobo is very special to me."

When I heard people complement her on something that I'd worked on so hard, and then read those sorts of comments coming from her, it completely tore me apart. I felt helpless and violated and most of all appauled that someone could do this to another person constantly without remorse or any sort of conscience. In short, I became depressed for a while, but I wasn't about to give up.
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Then came the cavalry...

After I found out about Paine on Elftown and after she started taking my chocobo, I started talking to Tihana through e-mails and got some info on the real Paine, who's legal name I will not say here. (To see what Tihana went through with this girl, see the document entitled "History of Paine" at the end of the page.) I then decided that I could not battle this thief alone. I went on my journal and made a post about it. I got a huge amount of feedback on it to my surprise. Suddenly, instead of two eyes watching Paine, there were twenty or more. If it weren't for the friends that I'd made through that post, I don't think I'd still be sane today, or posting art online at all for that matter. They helped me find her in places where I never would have looked and I learned a lot from them.

The only problem with them posting information in my journal comments was that Paine could see the tips and would immediately go and remove everything before I, or anyone else, could do anything about it.

That really sucked. X3

Out of spite, I suppose, she'd also copy my journal entries, which were all about how she's been stealing my work, and put them in her "Dismalchocobo" LiveJournal, almost, if not completely word for word. She'd twist a few words and names around in her favor to make it seem like I was the thief. She also tried to turn the journal into a gallery full of my dragon art. That's right. She moved on to my Fantasy section. I contacted the LiveJournal abuse team about that, but they gave me grief about copyright, but my art was still taken off of there.

Sometime around mid to late June, we agreed that we should make an online community to store all this information privately so we could catch her red-handed, so to speak, without her running to remove everything. I then founded "StaceyHaters," a LiveJournal community, which was originally open to everyone to join because I needed all the help I could get. But she eventually found that so I had to make it into a "friends only" community in which only I could add people to the group and only those in the group could read the posts. Right after we went private access, we found her in a forum called "Initial Forums" and she was under the name Paine. We reported her and she was banned, with her account removed completely, and the head adiminstrator of the site, Hokojirou, joined our group. It had Paine very paranoid considering Hokojirou was a friend of hers until he learned of her thievery.

Everything was going fine in the LiveJournal community until we had the suspicion that we had a mole in our group. Paine began removing the evidence before we could report her again. It was very possible that we had a mole because we weren't all too organized in the beginning, but finally we rooted out the person, and Paine became very paranoid again since she was, once again, cut off. So, she reported StaceyHaters to the LiveJournal abuse team for harassment. She also reported me because I had used her real name in some of my journal entries. I also had to remove her e-mails and IM addresses from my LiveJournal bio. That wasn't so bad, but StaceyHaters was gone. Deleted. Erased. I did manage to get the information back in a backup file that LiveJournal keeps of all deleted communities, but it was all a garbled mess.

Our base of operations was decimated. :/
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But sometimes change is good...

Luckily, we had been talking about moving our group to a more secure location and I took lots of notes. Heh, imagine that. We moved onto a friend's webspace where we knew we couldn't be reported. We didn't publicise this location at all and went back to our normal routine. We kept it VERY hush hush. But while the new place was being set up, we made another LiveJournal community as a sort of fake StaceyHaters. We made it friends only, and named the community "Anti-Pain." We only posted a few things to do with Paine in there, and all the other stuff was just about accidents and stuff that we had when we were kids. But we did that so she'd look stupid when she reported it. ;3 It'd also discredit her for any future reports, plus it'd just plain piss her off, which is always fun. The community is still there, just rather dead.

Once our new place was ready with password protection two different ways, we continued to find her and get her kicked off of websites and everyone threw in what they remembered from the bygone "StaceyHaters" haven.

At this point, it had been a good month or so since she first began stealing from me, so by all logic she had quite a long string of bans behind her even then. E-mails to admins were getting quite long. I wrote out a general "ban report" letter to copy and paste into e-mails to save time. This was a life saver, considering I was sending two to three, maybe even more of them out every day.

I also began to notice that she was moving into forums and posting my art but not only my art. She was posting art of all different styles and levels of skill, yet she was still claiming to be the original artist of them all. What surprised me even more was that there actually were people out there dumb enough to believe that she had created all of those artworks. I'm not talking a small number either. I'm talking 250+ pieces of stolen work all crammed into one Photobucket gallery. We eventually identified half the art with their respective artists. We contacted as many as we could and they were all appauled, which was to be expected. They all wanted to help stop her. As always, it's easier said than done, but at least the artists were aware and more people were looking out for her.

At one point, we tracked Paine into a forum called the "Dark Yugi Cave." Here, I ran into a problem. The forum had just recently been "hacked" before I came there looking for Paine, who was an administrator there at the time. I was searching through her posts to see if there were any threads with stolen work, which there were, but I stumbled onto a thread in which she was blaming the hacking on me! Not only was I angered, but I was determined to clear my name of that because I'm no hacker. I sent an e-mail to the admin, but at the time, I was unaware that the admin was a delusional friend of hers. Needless to say, nothing was done about it, but the forum mysteriously shut down, only to resurface elswhere later on. But before I reported her, a little birdie told me that she was responisble for the "hacking" of that forum. She and a friend did it as a joke. They went in, since she had administration capabilities, and erased everything and blamed it on a hacker.

She's such a doll isn't she?

Not only was I being accused of being a hacker, I was made out to be stealing the art from her again. She started posting more and more different pieces of my art as hers so I realized that I should put watermarks on my work. I was really worried about my pirates because they weren't protected at all, but luckily I put that old emblem on them before Paine thought to snatch them. I put the new watermark on all the rest of my art, which I don't know why I didn't think of sooner. :/
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Enter: Uncle Sam...

With the new watermarks in place, she couldn't say that any of my new works were hers. I was sure that this would be the end of it. Again, I thought too soon. She then proceeded to steal my identity to steal my work. I saw mirrors of my Elfwood page everywhere. Self portraits, bio descriptions, artwork, artwork descriptions, everything, copied to the letter. She even signed up to websites that provide print selling features in attempt to sell my artwork for her own profit. I'm not talking small scale either. In the largest print gallery she had every piece of my artwork up for sale, being 80 or so pieces, excluding a select few like my chocobo and self portraits. I even did a calculation of how much she would make if someone purchased each of the pictures at one time for the prices that she was selling them for. The total came to a staggering $1900.00.

At that point I started screaming at my monitor. I then contacted the FBI, FTC, and my local law enforcement. I went to the police department in town and talked to a detective. He didn't tell me all that I wanted to hear, but he did give me some very useful information. He also contacted the United States Secret Service about something to which I have no knowledge of. The online FBI tips only told me to contact the FTC and the FTC couldn't help me because they only deal with kind of idenity theft that involves social security numbers and bank accounts. But I was determined. I called up and I made an appointment with a copyright lawyer in a city nearby. Before I went to see the lawyer, I asked my boyfriend to talk to our local magistrate while I was gone and ask him the same questions I was going to ask the lawyer. I only had 30 minutes with the lawyer and since it would cost me another $100.00 if I went overtime, I made my questions quick. Got some answers I wanted and some that I didn't. A lot of things are in my favor, but alot aren't. But then again, he was a lawyer. ;) When I got home I compared notes with him, and to my surprise, the answers we each got were completely different.

But I thought that since lawyers get paid by the hour and magistrates get paid by salary, I came to the conclusion that the lawyer was just trying to get money out of me by making it seem like I needed to come back there to get this situation resolved. Blah. I never went back. I kept what they both said in mind, but I went on with what I was doing at the time.

After all that, things were back to normal. Normal being us kicking her off of a couple of sites per day. This continued well into August until one day I logged into our group and everything had been erased. Be ready to gasp.

We'd been hacked.

The owner of the webspace said that the only way they could have done that would be if they had the passwords, through hacking, or both. Since Paine had just recently "hacked" that forum, we assumed that we were hacked. Two IP addresses showed up in the login right after the hacking. Someone didn't cover their tracks. One was Paine's, which we could identify at the time, and the other was unidentifyable, so we assumed it was the friend that helped her hack that forum.

Again we were without a base of operations, but then there was another suggestion. The suggestion, which I won't say what it was, was a damn good suggestion, and we took it. That's where we are currently, still, four months from then. The place we are now prides itself as an "un-hackable" site, which I am very greatful for.

Being in a completely secure place, we could work freely and without worry. We became quite efficient at catching her, and we did it quickly. We kept finding her and reporting her over and over on different art sites that I never knew existed. She would post fanart on "traditional" art sites, which made her look incredibly stupid and childish because the art she submitted clashed horribly with the cultured and refined theme of the site.

Then, I suppose she gave up on art sites and switched over to forums. She signed up to a large variety of art and anime related forums and she also went into hiding, so to speak. She had her online friends create forums for her to hide in as some sort of safe haven. We'd message them and tell them that we would contact the forum provider, but they'd never reply and then move the forum to a new location. She'd post people's art, and mine, in these forums, thinking that she could get away with it there. Granted, we couldn't remove them, but we made such a stink about it that they had to keep moving to new locations and the art was deleted when they moved. But the friends she hangs around with are just as horrible and dishonest as she is. They know she's a thief. They know everything that she's done, yet they still complement her on the artwork she's stolen and help her out. Those people disgust me almost as much as she does.
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Keep your friends close...

Eventually, I think she gave up on stealing from me. There was a drastic decline in my artwork being stolen by her, but I still didn't stop tracking her. She, by that point, was still stealing other artist's work. This went on for about a month in which time a few more "Paine hunters" were made. Since Paine had been stealing their art they went out on a crusade to find her and squash her like I did in the early months.

Then it seemed she got really pissed off at me for some reason. She started stealing my artwork again. She put a few of my things up in places like SheezyArt and MyOtaku, but to my surprise, the administrators of the sites e-mailed me about her theft before I even knew it was happening!

Finally it had happened.

Finally, people are aware of her. I know now that enough people are familiar with my work and there is no way she could steal from me again without someone reporting her or someone noticing the art is stolen. I was, and still am, overjoyed to know that there are people out there watching out for me and other artists. I got lots of e-mails once she started posting my work, but after the e-mails were answered and the art theft was confirmed, she was banned from those accounts, which ultimately led her to stop stealing my artwork in a matter of days. Her attempts will no longer work and I feel safe with my artwork again. That's partially attributed to the new watermarks I put on all my work now, which show the URL of the site they're viewable on.

Since that time, she's still been stealing other people's work, mostly fanart and fanfiction, but stealing none the less. She's stealing from 12 and 13 year old kids too, by the way. It doesn't look like she'll be stopping anytime soon, but there are so many people out there after her right now, I feel that my job is done. The torch has been passed, so to speak. I know there are more groups like mine forming out there on the internet, but I'm proud to say that we paved the way for them. Rest assured though, if my works are stolen by her in the future, I'll know and it won't take me long to track her down again.

Paine, you'll read this at one point or another. I just want you to know that I'll always be watching you, wherever your sticky little fingers wander.

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Go figure...

And shortly after I made this page public, she popped up impersonating me again. I don't know whether she has an obsession, or just mental problems in copious amounts, but she's at it once again. She put her own URLs over my watermark's URL, very poorly I might add. You can still see parts of mine behind hers even. :P She has so much contempt for such a teeny tiny person. I remember Tihana saying that she's less than 5 feet tall, which means I tower over her. I reeeeeally want to meet her one day. >3

But anyway, this new problem is too much for me to deal with right now, so I'm just going to stop posting any new artwork. That means no more Anthro Pirates, no more contests (unless I enter something that I've already done), and no more gallery updates for... quite a while. I'm going to get her kicked off of the websites that she impersonates me on, but I'm not giving her anything new to steal. I have other things that I could be doing anyway, like my school work and general life stuff. :) I will post more artwork in the not-so-near future, but that will only happen when I feel like it's safe to do so, meaning there is no set time in which I'll start posting again. Rest assured though, when I come back, I'll have lots and lots of art to upload! ^_^

To those who visit all of my galleries regularly, I won't be taking any of it down. I'm not going to take down anything that's currently up, since taking it all down would just be silly and it would make it seem like I'm completely giving up. But anyway, to my friends and fans, I'm very sorry I have to stop posting. I really wish I didn't have to, but it seems it's inevitable at this point. :/ But don't worry! I'm not leaving Elftown or anything. :3 I'll still be here. I'll probably devote more time to Elftown Graphics and I think I'll shoot for the millipede badge. :D Who knows, maybe even the 10,000 graphics badge. X3 *doubts*

So far it seems she's stopped again. I think she got as far as three sites this time. Last time I think it was two, but anyway, I'm just waiting for the next attempt a month or so from now. That seems to be her pattern. I think she thinks that in a month I'll just... forget or something. X3

I felt like some more anti-Paine art:
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XP For those of you who are confused about what's going on here, I'll have to fill in some blanks. First off Paine owns tons of Pomeranians, which are little yappy annoying dogs, much like herself. Poms are timid and often have that "I'm more important than anything else" complex, much like Paine. They're very prissy, don't like to be touched and are rather ugly any way you look at them, whoo.. Paine again. They also drag their ass around when they have an itch that they can't scratch, but unlike most dogs, they look the most retarded when they go about trying to do it. Guess who fits in this category? It's always been said that pets resemble their masters. :)

Hehe. Thanks Plex for the inspiration! XD

~ A couple of months later...

Well, I've started posting my work again. Mostly because I don't care about Paine's antics anymore. If I find her someplace, I'll just get rid of her there, so it's really no big deal. Sure it's an inconvenience to my day, but all I have to do is send a message to the administrators and just the past evidence alone will get her promptly banned and my art will be removed from there. :) I keep records of all the places she's been banned from, so when she makes another account on a site she's been banned from, I just send them those links.

She probably thinks it's some kind of game now or something. If it's a game, then I haven't been playing for about five months now. X3 I've moved on with my life. She should really think about doing that herself, because she's 25 now, living in a crappy apartment in Baltimore that has rats (she even named the damned rats..), and has no life of her own at this point in time. Her estimated lifespan is 1/3 over and she hasn't even got a decent foothold yet. That is why I pity that girl. She can't do anything on her own and that's sad. That's extremely sad.

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And a few follow-up links. ;3

**A MUST visit. This beats the wheels off my old site. x3 Thanks Jo Ann and Laura for the wonderful work.**http://crimes.wawemail.com/index.php

Tihana's personal experiences with Paine:<URL:stuff/History_Of_Paine>
http://www.livejournal.com/users/tenkokouno/14857.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/tenkokouno/22745.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/tenkokouno/24665.html

Adele Sessler's page on Paine:http://meadowhaven.net/php-bin/view.php?pid=2061

Screenshots compiled by Marik2112:http://photobucket.com/albums/v496/eyeinthesky/

Her banned houses on Elftown:
[Paine] | [Shadow Ishizu Ishtar] | [SethKaiba] | [Kytani] |[Adnama Lavode]
[YamiRhaksha] | [HarvestMoonHaven] | [Siren Song That Cried] | [TwistedFate] | [Atma] | [HirukaSama]
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Anti-Paine Artwork
Marik2112 aka Jo Anne & Laura McGavin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/themadfish/Misc/laura.jpg
http://fanart.theotaku.com/imgs/16879-20041109193343.jpg
Daphne Sy:
http://www.geocities.com/aerith1234/noplagiarism.jpg
Naomi Ravenmoon:
http://www.boomspeed.com/naomi_silver/paine8.gif
http://www.boomspeed.com/naomi_silver/paine7.gif
[AquaBuggy]:
http://elftown.eu/img/drawing/41419_1118543441.jpg

A few artist's she's stolen from:

Tihana G. Tresnjak (aka Lhiannan-Sidhe or TenkoKouno)
DeviantArt Gallery: http://tenkokouno.deviantart.com/
Adele Sessler
Homepage: http://meadowhaven.net/
Rachel S. Young
Homepage: http://www.artoki.co.uk/artoki.htm
Arist known as Sforzie
Homepage: http://demonicboppu.keenspace.com/
Daphne Sy
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/aerith1234/
Jean Tay
DeviantArt Gallery: http://azhrarn.deviantart.com/
Hillary Luetkemeyer
DeviantArt Gallery: http://hibbary.deviantart.com/
Marik2112 aka Jo Anne & Laura McGavin
TheOtaku.com Gallery: http://fanart.theotaku.com/artist.php?user_id=16879
Asuka Kureru
DeviantArt Gallery: http://askerian.deviantart.com/

And... myself, [Adnama]

Exported linkage to this wiki: http://elftown.eu/_paine

March 30th is now officially Poop on Paine day!

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2005-02-14 [spiritee]: i know, but i'm sure she doesn't look that well <_< yar~

2005-02-14 [nokaredes]: you should post a picture of her, for the benefit of people who don't know her in person or haven't been to cosplay sites ^_^

2005-02-14 [Dil*]: Is that legal? XD

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: Well, I'd rather not since I really don't know. :o If you want to find pictures of her, search google for "cosplay seymourmother". ;3 Then you can find it yourself. It should be one of the first ones.

2005-02-14 [kay-chan]: okeday, I think I got her... Uck...

2005-02-14 [spiritee]: ah..found it...if you ever speak to her again, tell her that if she puts her hair in pigtails again, i'll have to send my friend with a bbgun to shoot her in the eye. not to mention the even uglier personality -_-

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: I think the personality seeped outward. :P It would explain a lot.

2005-02-14 [spiritee]: *shudders* the mystery of nature

2005-02-14 [nokaredes]: she's in Maryland! you all are in MD?

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: Nah. I'm in NC. :o I wish we lived in the same state. All this mess would have been solved already. >_>...

2005-02-14 [nokaredes]: I'm in MD...want me to...mess her up?

2005-02-14 [AquaBuggy]: lol... semd out one of the art mafia's assasins XD meh... i wish there were something i could do. but i dont really know what other than get an e-mail address and spam the phrok out of her ><.

2005-02-14 [AquaBuggy]: gah... im not finding it on google -.-

2005-02-14 [nokaredes]: well, someone said they know her address...

2005-02-14 [nokaredes]: and I'm not sure I found the right SeymourMother...

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: If there's someone dressed in a white mage Paine costume on the front page, then that's her. :o

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: And I've had so many offers from people to go and knock her off, it's not even funny. XP But that's not the way to go about things. She will have two of the worst things in the universe after her anyway; bad karma and lawyers. :B

2005-02-14 [Constansia]: http://forums.cosplay.com/member.php?u=1027 [Adnama]??..is it her??

2005-02-14 [teptep]: yes angel that is the one, thats from awile back, I think 2002

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: Yep. That'd be her. :o She looks the same now as she did then.

2005-02-14 [teptep]: yep ugly!

2005-02-14 [Constansia]: maybe you should answear to her doing same what she does to you?....

2005-02-14 [spiritee]: my mom's a lawyer ^^ i live in MD O_O eww so close to me, what city?

2005-02-14 [kay-chan]: No. She, for one, has nothing worthy to steal... For another, it would be going down to her level, which is too low to see without good binoculars.

2005-02-14 [spiritee]: eh, what can you do <_< it's either burning down her house for sue her to death, too bad each has their own consequences

2005-02-14 [Erestor]: How about beating her to a pulse and then sueing her? I think that might work! :B

2005-02-14 [nokaredes]: maybe in reverse...

2005-02-14 [Erestor]: Could do I suppose, it would be fun either way though! :3

2005-02-14 [AquaBuggy]: ooooh... plenty of insperation... *scribbles crude scetch with crayons on computer desk*

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: To everyone on Gaia Online! She's on there now, as a guy. XP http://www.gaiaonline.com/profile/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1373725

2005-02-14 [AquaBuggy]: too bad the school computer blocks everything... (exept for this site?)

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: Yeah. O_o.. Mine does that too. :o

2005-02-14 [spiritee]: unless she's Silverlily, she didn't write that fanfic in her journal: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2088852/1/

2005-02-14 [Adnama]: She stole a person's identity on an account like that. I think that's the real person since the profile doesn't follow the patterns of Paine. :o

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: that journal entry's been removed~ ^^

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: What journal? :o She's got like.. ten. XP

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: the journal on gaia~

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: Ah. So it is. ;3 Someone prolly messaged her about it already. X3 There are other Paine hunters out there. :B

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: i reported the entry, so either the mods work incredibly fast or someone warned her ^^- good stuff good stuff

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: I think it may have been the mods. o_o;; They're unbelievably strict. I'm wondering if she's banned. XP

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: if they're that strict and someone sticks in a couple more reports, it's only a matter of time :D

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: Exactly. I mean, she's such a kelpto. She can't resist posting stolen stuff. :o I know she's going to post more stuff. She'll eventually post some art, then she'll get canned. I'm watching her. >_>

2005-02-15 [Dil*]: What a pain in the anus..>.> Why doesn't she get a fricken life.

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: Well. You see, she's had so many lives, she's lost hers in the mix. I don't think she'll never know who she is, just who she pretends to be. And that in itself is cause enough to get the white coats on her arse. X3

2005-02-15 [Dil*]: ..>.< I just don't understand why people would be like that.

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: Meh. Could be any number of things. She was picked on in school, or her parents didn't pay her any attention, or they spoiled her too much, or she felt left out when her sister was born. It could be any number of those BS excuses that normal people get over and grow from. I think she fell just short of growing into adulthood and has her mind stuck in 12 year old mode. :P

2005-02-15 [Dil*]: I'm sure alot of people that were picked on in school turned out okay..I mean I was picked on in elementary school...

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: I was picked on relentlessly because I was "different" and "goth". Heck. I've been accused of devil worshipping (I live in the South. XP), but it's only made me realise how cruel, stupid, and judgemental people can be. I grew up fast living like that and having to deal with people being just generally mean to me most of the time. I did have friends though, so maybe that was what Paine was lacking. :P

2005-02-15 [Dil*]: Maybe :)

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: I remember graduation being one of the happiest days I can remember. X3

2005-02-15 [Dil*]: Going to highschool rocked....people left me alone mostly..maybe they grew up a bit..

2005-02-15 [Leara]: I was called goth and the 'Sailor Moon girl' >.> (people in my school called anything anime Sailor moon.) I grew up with everyone in school, and was probaly friends with them at one point of another, so they didn't say anything, to my face anyways. O.O I think I actually got respect because people labelled me goth...because people were surprised anyone would dare to dress differently than what was 'in style'. I guess thats the diff with large and small schools though...you guys were probaly in larger schools than what i was in, where everyone knew each other.

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: On the contrary, I had the exact same setting as you, but everyone I had classes with were preps and they were extremely clique-ish and stuck up. The councelor put me in most of the honors classes with them. :P Yeah. Our preps were in honors classes. XP

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: o gasp~ we had a variety of preps, the sporty ones, the smart ones, and the sterotypical blonds who are dumb as sticks our school's pretty diverted in race and style~

2005-02-15 [AquaBuggy]: my schools lacking in goths :( theyr always soo fun to hang out with. yeah... in middle school i went to a christian school... its the only reason im not christian (i shit you not). liveng in southern california is always nice because everyone has a shaved head smokes something foul (in class too) and listens to rap... I HATE RAP! i think we should tie paine to a chair and pull a mr. blonde on her while listening to rap!... <.< >.> oh... sorry... lost my train of thught XD

2005-02-15 [kay-chan]: Ugh... I was picked on... Except when I was picked on, I was also in the stage of my life when I would literally beat the living expletive out of them, so it all worked out. Paine's almost a sob story, like when you feel bad for the turkeys who drown themselves looking at the rain. T.T

2005-02-15 [Constansia]: ...naaa...i feel bad for them when they came to my house asking for cuber..thous cind of horny animals must put to sleep....BASTERDS!!!....and not only i have problems with them...all my friends have T_T

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: i wasn't picked on, 'cuse i was one of those anti-social friendless children who people think we're glaring at them but we're actually staring off into space.

2005-02-15 [Yuriona]: LOL@spiritee!! That makes two of us!

2005-02-15 [Dil*]: I don't think there are any real preps in my school really, they're just called the more popular kids...they mostly leave people alone. Not many goths here either.... I'm pretty much a geek but I don't get picked on sooooo It's all good :)

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: ah lucky you, no preps~

2005-02-15 [Dil*]: Ya, I didn't even know wtf a prep was before I joined this site >.<

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: Your highschool years were so cushy. X3 Good for you though. :) I think I started, or helped start the goth trend at my school. Seems like after I started the all black clothes and leather choker thing (Twas a phase. XP), a large group formed afterward. They kept me sane. X3

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: that's cool ^^- we have this whole punk thing going on here, and a little bit of goth, preps are still the majority though

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: say, is ~Paine~ on elfpack her? i know the girl def didn't draw that picture

2005-02-15 [Adnama]: Well. There is a girl that had that name here and she wasn't the same person. She's changed her name here, but I don't think it's Paine. However, if the art is still stolen, somethin' needs to be done about it. ;3

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: couldn't tell <_< they kind of look alike

2005-02-15 [Yuriona]: Ok guys... I'm a guard on Elfpack and I just thought I'd let you know something before I get bombarded with reports. Unfortunately, Elfpack does not take responsibility for what is displayed in people's houses. The only way to have artwork removed is to have the actual artist request it's removal. I'm not sure where we stand on 'art theft' there though (claiming something is yours when it obviously isn't)... I'll get back to you on it.

2005-02-15 [spiritee]: ah i see~

2005-02-15 [nokaredes]: we had the smart and sporty preps, goths (who didn't really like me...), and 'bookworms'...I was anti-social too, because I hated being steriotyped...and how would someone prove their artwork was their own?

2005-02-15 [Yuriona]: Same goes for art theft apparently... unless the original artist speaks up, we don't do anything about it. *pokes Adnama*

2005-02-15 [AquaBuggy]: yea... i saw that paine girl... from what little ive seen of the true paine it looks kinda like her but im not sure it is. sadly im one of the very few artist type people things at my school... but ive helpd bring up the goth population. still no hard core ones though. i wish we had the white faced, black and red striped hardcore goths though :/ they are fun. its just a bunch of greasy teenagers though. they all think im gonna pull a collumbine too! silly children... i hate being one of them. anyway... i started a paine comic ^^ its turning out purrdy

2005-02-15 [kay-chan]: I have such a drama school... It's lovely, nobody has bubbles. ^.^ I wanna draw anti-paine stuff... I just don't know what.

2005-02-16 [Dil*]: 1600 people in my 8-12 highschool...and only like...dunno a total of 10 goths...a tiny bit of punk... the more popular people. Then all normal people...and of course the geeks :P (I'm an outsider/geek..)

2005-02-16 [Leara]: There were 700 and something students in my school, and about 6 people that would get the goth classification...only three really stood out, me, a girl a year younger that me, who was an attention craving pyscho bitch who would trace art and call it her own, then run off and cut herself whenever something accused her of stealing it.(I dispised her beyond anything, she was a tim burton freak who PRETENDing to be frightened of everything, shoulders hunched together, whimpering....the whole FAKE act.), then a guy who tries to fit the goth stereotype that was amusing...wears all black, dies hair black, compains his mother through away all his 'goth gear' and talks of suicide.

2005-02-16 [Dil*]: I don't even think there are 10 people that are goths in my school really...

2005-02-16 [Leara]: I'm not goth, nor ever claimed to be, I dress as me, self expression(but people will label. >.>) I was basically the strange artist/anime girl who you didn't want to piss off because I'm apparently really good at winning arguments. o.O I brought tarot cards to school one day, and instead of being made fun of or called a witch, everyone in the hall swarmed me and wanted a reading. o.O THAT I found weird. @_@

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: we have people who wear bright blue wigs to school ^^- and tutus and teletubby bags <_<

2005-02-16 [Leara]: O.O Thats just scary.

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: the teletubby bag yah~creepy stuff

2005-02-16 [Adnama]: We had a lot of people that liked to look like Kelly Osbourne in my school. >_>.. I was saddened and frightened by that. XP

2005-02-16 [Paul Doyle]: In high school (1987-1991) I couldn't even fit in with the people who traditionally "didn't fit in". It's ironic how the most anti-cliqueish cliques are in some ways as every bit as snotty as the jocks (which I fit into, physically) and the surfer duuudes

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: society makes itself too complicated for my liking <_<

2005-02-16 [Paul Doyle]: Be yourself, be approachable, and take it from there. It took me many years to learn that, even after I accepted my inherent, unshakable eccentricity.

2005-02-16 [kay-chan]: There is this one girl who is affectionately referred to as the heavy metal girl... She came to school one day wearing fishnets and a loincloth... Very scary. I think I'm 'other', I'm not sure, we don't classify too much in our school.

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: fishnets i see a lot, but loincloth O_O

2005-02-16 [Adnama]: Once I got out of my goth phase, I think I fell into the "other" category too. :o I'm not sure exactly what I was. I think I was labeled the "artsy girl" after that. XP

2005-02-16 [kay-chan]: Yeah... I though my eyes were playing cruel, cruel tricks on me...

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: <-- weird boyhater <_<

2005-02-16 [Paul Doyle]: I had obvious athletic talent (but the coach was a dork who went by popularity, so the football team sucked. I made big defensive plays when I got playing time, which wasn't often), artistic talent (which was swiftly repressed by my father, who I have since forgiven), literary talent (same repressing) and a bit of "genius" (but I wasn't geeky enough to be a geek). So I suffered in silence and was ignored. Grades aside, I really hated high school, big time. I developed years later.

2005-02-16 [AquaBuggy]: eh... we have 3000 people at my school... it was built for 1000. its like liveing in china! (without so many asians, if you want asians go to arcadia). i like the goth clothes... im not so much a depressing person but i wear allot of black (as most high school kids do these days) im in band, a video gamer, an artist, a loner to some degree. im not entirely sure what i fit into. my schools a "rich" school. even tough wejust got a stadium. but all that means is that there are more white kids and everyone can afford drugs XD most of my freinds are out of high school. i cant stand anybody my age. or those who act it *cough:paine:cough* as for art thieves ive had a few dealings.

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: modest, are we? high school's ok, if you take out all the work, stress, lack of sleep...makes you miss the times when you're two years old and does nothing but eat and sleep

2005-02-16 [AquaBuggy]: but nobody as hard core as paine... maybe she had some sort of crazy up bringing or perhaps its just pure insanity... whatever it may be lets hope someone can put a stop to it soon.

2005-02-16 [AquaBuggy]: im not in honers either so i get the cream of the crap kids ><

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: obsessive behavior, quite scary

2005-02-16 [AquaBuggy]: maybe cumpulsive stealy-ness... i forget the big spiffy sounding name >_O

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: klepto-sumthing?

2005-02-16 [Adnama]: Kleptomania. ;3 She says she goes to therapy for it and the people in her group "scare her." *snort* XP

2005-02-16 [Adnama]: She's an obsessive compulsive kleptomaniac with shitzotypal tendencies and paranoid delusions. She's also narcissistic, histronic, and dependant since she seems to be craving attention like a mad woman and doesn't seem to want to detatch herself from her parents. She wouldn't survive a day out on her own. :P

2005-02-16 [Paul Doyle]: Paine? Is that you? <img:http://re2.mm-b.yimg.com/image/654168475>

2005-02-16 [nokaredes]: your father repressed your talent? my mom does the same thing--she deletes my stories off of our computer :( and who isn't obsessive-compulsive? *everyone stares* it's just me then...

2005-02-16 [Adnama]: Well, there's your normal obsessor and then there's the person that twitches because she needs her art thieving fix. XP -- Paul. The allusion is perfect! XD

2005-02-16 [nokaredes]: I twitch when I need my ET fix :s

2005-02-16 [AquaBuggy]: woo hoo i was correct *munches happily on cookie* aw, paine is a chest burster.

2005-02-16 [Paul Doyle]: my talent was repressed, which is why now, at age 31, I am making up for a LOT of lost time, relearning what I had forgotten, and taking it a few steps further :S i have forgiven him, though, and would not harrass my own son in this fashion.

2005-02-16 [nokaredes]: never!

2005-02-16 [spiritee]: wow lookie those fangs!

2005-02-16 [nokaredes]: Does anyone else get reminded of the movie Tremors when they look at [Paul Doyle]'s 2nd image?

2005-02-16 [Paul Doyle]: Or that "Alien" parody scene from "Spaceballs"?

2005-02-16 [nokaredes]: maybe...

2005-02-16 [Yuriona]: *sings* Hello my baby, hello my darling, hello my ragtime gal....

2005-02-16 [nokaredes]: *blinkblink*

2005-02-16 [AquaBuggy]: bill please

2005-02-16 [nokaredes]: hey, [Paine] and [Shadow Ishizu Ishtar] have both been added to Rogues' Gallery.. ^_^

2005-02-16 [Paul Doyle]: *gasp* I'll never have the "Saturday Night Special" again . . .

2005-02-16 [nokaredes]: *is thoroughly confused*

2005-02-16 [Paul Doyle]: Watch the film "Spaceballs" :)

2005-02-18 [spiritee]: ee-www, looks like paine's going to katsucon <_< she probably DOEs live near me then...poo i wanted to go to katsucon...

2005-02-18 [Lord Asriel]: Whoa......Paine sounds like she's a total bitch.

2005-02-19 [Iron-Man-429]: take it to the press if she wants the attention

2005-02-24 [ForbiddenAngel]: Mwahaha. Luff you Ajay. :) I'm still watching.

2005-02-24 [Adnama]: *huggleSteph* I miss joo. ;-; Nice to hear from you again though. ;3

2005-02-24 [kay-chan]: *sings with [Yuriona]* Send me a kiss by wire, baby my heart's on fire...

2005-02-24 [AquaBuggy]: aaaaawww...

2005-02-25 [kay-chan]: ...if you refuse me, honey, you'll lose me, and you'll be left alone-so baby telephone, and tell me I'm your owwwwwn! ~I like that song.

2005-02-25 [Constansia]: oh kay-chan , i love this song yet aerosmith- I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing is in my head sins friday and i cant get it out of my head

2005-02-25 [kay-chan]: ^.^ Yeah. I've had Silly Songs with Larry stuck in me head. "You are his cheeeseburgeeer!"

2005-03-16 [Madzeri]: :S what a horrible person...as if you would steal art..so mean. makes me angry.

2005-03-16 [Adnama]: Yeah. :B And here's a little victory for me: http://www.animedatabase.com/ax/members/index.cfm?fa=view_member_profile&memberid=25751 That's all the webmaster's doing. X3 That's a site where Paine had my art. I had no hand in it, but I lurve him for doing it. He's also going to hand the account over to me shortly but I don't think I'll be changing anything. ^_^

2005-03-16 [AquaBuggy]: LOL! thats golden. nice picture XD nicely pwnt

2005-03-16 [Adnama]: It's a classical moment. I had to share it with you guys. X3

2005-03-16 [AquaBuggy]: thanks. ill add that to my favorite for whenever i need a laugh ^^

2005-03-16 [Adnama]: There are just so many times I wish I could see her face when stuff like that happens to her. :)

2005-03-16 [AquaBuggy]: somewthing like this: D8<

2005-03-16 [Erestor]: That's so funny Paine is an asshole really! :3

2005-03-20 [Haowi]: i just read this page... and it's disgusting what she's doing!!!!!!!

2005-03-20 [Paz]: I read this... Paine is such a bitch! That's not cool what she did!! Burn her!

2005-03-20 [SkyLynn07]: I have to agree with everyone else..

2005-03-21 [AquaBuggy]: naw... no burning... not yet. Step 1: sue her 455 into the ground. step 2: send art mafia thugs to wak her dogs. step 3: burn her.

2005-03-21 [Adnama]: If it were up to me, her torture would be endless until her frail body failed her somehow and resulted in her death. But that's just me tapping into my morbid desires. :B

2005-03-21 [Erestor]: If anybody deserves to kill her it's you AJay!

2005-03-21 [Adnama]: Yus! XP Well... me and about 20 other artists. x_x;

2005-03-21 [spiritee]: and the rest of us would very much like a stab at her <_< just one?

2005-03-21 [Adnama]: Weeeeell. I guess. >_>.... :B

2005-03-22 [kay-chan]: It would take endless amounts of pain for her tiny brain to even register that she was being hurt. She's stupid enough to do all this...

2005-03-22 [AquaBuggy]: death by poke! just poke her in the forhead untill it wears a hole through!8D

2005-03-26 [hanhepi]: $1900.00? thats it? for 80 peices?? thats only $23.75 a peice. ive seen some of your artwork ( the pirate galeries, and the one in the tuar contest.).. you could make alot more than $23.75 a pic. if i had any sort of savings, id pay more than $50 for a peice of artwork done by you. i think you aught to look into geting a galery.. not just an online one, but in a real art galery. i hear Raleigh has art galeries. (its north cakolakie though, so who knows.) i dont know where you are in the state, but swansboro is an artsy little town, you may be able to sell some of your stuff there. (a friend got a spot at a shop there, and your stuff is better than hers). i dont know how you...

2005-03-26 [hanhepi]: would hang digital artwork though. that could pose a problem :/ . I'm sorry you had a fucktard get you like that. its horrible.

2005-03-26 [AquaBuggy]: hang a print on the wall ;)

2005-03-26 [kay-chan]: Wait... is [Paine] suddenly unblocked from ET again???

2005-03-27 [spiritee]: O_____O ten days

2005-03-27 [kay-chan]: ...yeah...

2005-04-03 [*Night_Shade*]: My god...I swear if she did that to me I'd track her down and personally beat her ass. I hope she gets in jail one day, or at gets run over ^-^

2005-04-04 [AquaBuggy]: unblocked? Run for the hills! women and children first! *points at sky* eet ees gowdzeella!

2005-04-04 [*Night_Shade*]: lmao, ya, I hope my art's safe...*gathers it and runs*

2005-04-04 [Adnama]: She's being watched. :)

2005-04-05 [kay-chan]: Good to hear.

2005-04-05 [AquaBuggy]: let's pitty the poor eyes that have to look on her.

2005-04-05 [Adnama]: She's been fairly good. And I think she's even learned to type. :O!

2005-04-05 [Paul Doyle]: I'm surprised they let her back on o__O

2005-04-05 [spiritee]: learned to type?! *gasp of shock*

2005-04-05 [AquaBuggy]: are you sure she hasn't just switchd places with a monkey? it would be kinda hard to tell the difference...

2005-04-05 [Perplexity]: The monkey might smell better.

2005-04-05 [Adnama]: You know. That monkey just might. :o

2005-04-06 [Paul Doyle]: Bad monkey! >_<

2005-04-06 [Perplexity]: Noooo, monkey good, paine bad!

2005-04-06 [Paul Doyle]: Eeegah! Monkey spank Paine! Kontutu.

2005-04-06 [Erestor]: Can't you just get some monkey hunters? I know paul is one ... :)

2005-04-06 [Adnama]: :O We require Jane Goodall. Take away the bad monkies! o_o

2005-04-06 [Erestor]: :) I'm glad to see you can still find humour in your situation. Still, kill her AJay!

2005-04-06 [Paul Doyle]: Spank the monkey! O__o

2005-04-06 [AquaBuggy]: jane godal spanks monkeys? being out in the jungle must be getting to her...

2005-04-08 [Adnama]: Oh yes. Jane Goodall is a monkey spank pro. :B *suffering from late night maddness* ;3 -- Erestor, I gotta find humor in it, otherwise it would be all the more horrible of an experience. X3 When life gives you lemons, squirt them in Paine's eyes. :B

2005-04-08 [Erestor]: lol good saying. :D

2005-04-08 [spiritee]: what a waste of lemons though ^_^.

2005-04-08 [Erestor]: :) I have to agreee but I think these where extrmeley sour ones that you couldn't eat how they had alot more acid in then normal ones, which means they would hurt more.

2005-04-09 [Adnama]: Yus. Douse her eyes with rotten lemon juice. Ya' know, the kinds of lemons that aren't even yellow anymore. :B

2005-04-09 [Yuriona]: Yeah!! Death by salmonella poisoning!!

2005-04-09 [Paul Doyle]: BURN HER! (no carrot-nose witch-proof required)

2005-04-09 [AquaBuggy]: land a house on her candy ass 8D

2005-04-09 [Adnama]: :o We need a duck.

2005-04-10 [kay-chan]: Wait, you can get salmonella through lemons? 8X

2005-04-10 [Erestor]: I hope not! Everyone always says fruit is good for you ... X3

2005-05-25 [FiSHr.]: OMG......*fizzes* i cant believe someone would go to such long length to steal/deface good art

2005-05-25 [Adnama]: And she's still truckin'. :/ Though she's halfway leaving me alone and moving on to other artists.

2005-05-25 [FiSHr.]: i fizz when angry....god i hope she doesn't get my girlfriend

2005-05-26 [Paul Doyle]: If she's truckin', then may she have an eighteen-wheel blowout.

2005-05-26 [Adnama]: Spike strips are an artist's best friend. :B

2005-05-26 [FiSHr.]: ok...

2005-05-26 [AquaBuggy]: i use spike strips all the time in my art.

2005-05-27 [kay-chan]: Really?! I view trying to get people into fatal accidents as an art form, too! I mean.... errr... look! A distraction!

2005-05-27 [FiSHr.]: hm....i suspect she may be stealing art off my friends....

2005-05-27 [AquaBuggy]: wouldn't surprise me

2005-05-27 [FiSHr.]: ....

2005-05-27 [Adnama]: Really? Who are your friends? Message me with links to their sites and I'll forward it to someone who's dealing with her theft in other places. :3

2005-05-27 [Adnama]: Because if they have the original artists to link to, it's much easier to get her banned from.. wherever. o_o

2005-05-27 [FiSHr.]: yeah...i need to get the links first cos they are personal sites....not deviant or elfwood....

2005-05-27 [Adnama]: That's cool. Just send'em to me through a message. I don't want you to post them here in case she somehow gets back on and starts sneaking around in here. I wouldn't want her to go to the links and start stealing from your friends, if she isn't already. x_x;

2005-05-27 [FiSHr.]: yeah...O.o oh my what if she steals my weird trippy art (see an example on my house)....aw no man i would be devastated

2005-05-27 [Adnama]: She usually doesn't go for that kind of thing. She stays in the anime area mostly. :o She's really into Yu-Gi-Oh right now. :/