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2005-06-17 [Zab]: thanks, rondel, it´s exactly what I intend to do*smile* and I´ll check that wiki out..
2005-06-17 [Azuri]: No Common sense didnt die it just isnt common anymore
2005-06-17 [Zab]: O.O yeah..he just changed his name to ...Unusual Sense! wee! he´s alive!
2005-06-17 [Azuri]: Whoooo alive!
2005-06-17 [a faerie tale]: *yawn* I am tiiiiiired.
2005-06-17 [Zab]: you too?
2005-06-17 [a faerie tale]: Mmhmm. I'm gonna have some raman noodles. yum.
2005-06-18 [Azuri]: mmm those are good^.^
2005-06-18 [Rondel]: *sleepwalks through wiki, waves hi, mumbles something indistinguisha
2005-06-18 [Zab]: .....*thinking
2005-06-18 [Azuri]: Oo...at least [Rondel] didnt tell the doorframe she was sorry^.^ iv had friends that do that
2005-06-18 [Zab]: Oo Ok...*lol* well, they was polite..
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: ....coffee anyone? lol
2005-06-18 [Zab]: Do you have some tea? ^_-
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: yup
2005-06-18 [Zab]: Than a cup of that please. So what have you done today?
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: worked all day in a cafe >.>
2005-06-18 [Zab]: *leans forward and listens carefully* Was it fun? *can´t help smiling*
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: oh it was a hoot, minor burns to my hand but it was a hoot
2005-06-18 [Zab]: Really? *still interested, now wondering what a hoot is( guess it´s not the same as it would be pronounced in sweden= hot=threath)*
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: lol no, hoot as in a lot of fun, only i was being sarcastic
2005-06-18 [Zab]: *lol* I guessed^_- ..I´ve been swiming..again
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: ah...i always wanted to do something like that, although it really is too cold in the lochs here, not to mention public lol
2005-06-18 [Zab]: hehe, were are you? Scotland or something?
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: yup, at the very base of the highlands and at the very top of the lowlands at the moment to be exact, i can see the hills from my window
2005-06-18 [Zab]: Ouh! Cool^_^. I´d like to visit that someday..
2005-06-18 [a faerie tale]: I've got One Short Day stuck in my head. And it's been there for quite some time now.
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: :D im going on another photography spree tomorrow, i will take some pics and post them on Dela's Photography
2005-06-18 [Zab]: yay! *have 'auld lyne syne' in swedish in my head.. :/*
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: lmao! i have this in my head http://www.new
2005-06-18 [Zab]: ok...havn´t any speakers..
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: awww sucks :( that music rocks ^^
2005-06-18 [Zab]: *shrugs*yeah, I believe you.
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: hehehe
2005-06-18 [Zab]: maybe I should go to bed before midnight today..aye, well I have more than an hour left..
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: lol might be an idea yes
2005-06-18 [Zab]: hehe...was up till 2h past last week..heh..><
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: ooh dear, bad Zab :p
2005-06-18 [Zab]: mwehehehe..I can sleep as long as I want anyway...until 6 in the morning, usually.. :/
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: fun, i dont have that option, im usually out working by then
2005-06-18 [Zab]: yeah, the scary is I wakes up even when I don´t need to..and have a lot of energy after only 4 hours sleep a night for a week, and not much the last weeks in school either..I must be a supergirl or something...I have no apetite either and barely eat, some days I don´t eat at all...do you think I have a problem?
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: its probably just your body adjusting to the lack of no school. i know when my routine gets screwed up my "clock" gets all screwy
2005-06-18 [I stabbith ye]: You wouldn't believe what I have just had to put up with....Appare
2005-06-18 [Zab]: yeah, it´ll probably work better when the horse comes and I have a reason to get up and something to do ^_^
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: oh my dear, are you alright Stabbith?
2005-06-18 [I stabbith ye]: Not particulary...
2005-06-18 [Zab]: ...err...Oo..o
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: oh dear *hugs*
2005-06-18 [I stabbith ye]: is that a hug to computer guy or what :S
2005-06-18 [I stabbith ye]: Hey I just realised that picture above....that necklace is very nice lol
2005-06-18 [Delladreing]: thank you, tis mine ;) lol ironically...
2005-06-18 [Zab]: I think it´s a hug to you*lol*
2005-06-19 [I stabbith ye]: oh umk....and umk to the other comment to lol ^_^
2005-06-19 [Zab]: umk? What´s that?
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: a rather odd way of accepting it as an answer lol
2005-06-19 [Zab]: ok, but what does it mean?
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: he is mearly saying "ok" to our coments
2005-06-19 [Zab]: *shrugs* ok you don´t know which words the letters stand for, or you don´t wanna tell? Or is it in fact a wordOo? *lol* So, anything new up?
2005-06-19 [I stabbith ye]: the letters don't stand for anything lol....it's just the way I say ok....umk? :P
2005-06-19 [Zab]: m´kay, I see *grin* Same question to you, anything new?
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: ...i just told you lol! other than the fact im incredibly tired and short tempered because of it no not much
2005-06-19 [Zab]: ...okey..*talk
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: *half laughs* thank you zab, if i snap i apologise now, but i will try not to
2005-06-19 [Zab]: As long as you don´t bite miss..mrs?*lol
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: miss :P hehe not maried yet
2005-06-19 [Zab]: ^_^Ok, miss, I´ll be quiet and calm...over here...till you feel nicer..*lol*
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: fair enough
2005-06-19 [Zab]: Good. *sits down and drinks green tea*
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: good stuff, very good for you *wanders off to find some food*
2005-06-19 [Zab]: *lol* I know. And I have at last learned to like the taste. Without sugar or milk, of course.
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: but of course, i have returned victorious from my make shift kitchen, i come bearing pasta and cheese slowly melting over it and fresh bread and butter...and a cake lol
2005-06-19 [Zab]: mmm....sounds good...
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: yup, not bad for a tiny stove and a very small fridge. we have no lower floor rooms at the moment, they have all been ripped out to be renevated for my brothers new wheel chair, so we must make do
2005-06-19 [Zab]: ok? wheelchair? (I guess he wpuldn´t like me to pity him, so I wont.) We´re renovating here too. Upstairs^_^ we have about 200 square metres but only use 1/4 of it....now. ^_^I´m longing for my new room to be finished.
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: yes he is disabled, his legs dont work, nor does his hand. hehe sounds cool. blessed solstice btw while i remember
2005-06-19 [Zab]: Oh, thanks. the same to you. And him. eh, may I ask..? When did it happend, or was he borned ith it?
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: the dr that delivered him was an untrained ass, when my brother was being boen the incompetant b*stard managed to smack his head about, and my brother suffered severe injuries from it which left his brain scarred on both sides. so it is a mixed answer, he wasnt born with it, but immediately after he was he suffered the event which caused it
2005-06-19 [Zab]: Oh...some people should just stay away from those works..*terrif
2005-06-19 [Zab]: it´s ok if you don´t want to answer...
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: i dont know, ive never had a brother who wasnt, and no he didnt. we took them to court for 10 years, we came out of it peniless and still struggle to pay the lawyer fees and so on
2005-06-19 [Zab]: *shakes head* this world... I´d never lived with a brother or sister at all, even though I have two brothers and a sister.. :/ I miss them though.*moving the subject to something safer: My own feelings lol*
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: lol fair enough i supose
2005-06-19 [Zab]: *relieved* you answered, then I can´t have said anything that offended you..
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: oh no hun, if you offended me you would know about it, namely because id tell you. dont worry so much about upseting me honey, it takes a lot to do so.
2005-06-19 [Zab]: thanks. I just get worried when I don´t get an answer, specially if I´m talking about a subject that´s not 'safe' (ex:racism, others personal life, religion, a.s.o...) and that might hurt people.. :/ sorry...
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: lol its fine, its tactful of you
2005-06-19 [Zab]: yeah..or cowardly..*lua
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: lol no, not cowardly :P
2005-06-19 [Zab]: hehe*blush* thanks..so what´s new? (oh, gods, here we go again..)
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: lol oh not much :p
2005-06-19 [Zab]: nah, not here either...I´m almost done with that fence..just one more wire around and about 20 poles^_^
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: ah goodo then
2005-06-19 [Zab]: yeah^_^and next week Rimfakse and Quatern´ll come..
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: yay!!
2005-06-19 [Zab]: ok, this is very interesting, right? *lol*
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: yers tis my dear :p you are keeping me from being moody and so on
2005-06-19 [Zab]: *lol* well, I have nothing more to say...I and three others just started a new RPG..
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: ooh fun, i need to get my rp going again
2005-06-19 [Zab]: We have a character free, soon two, if you want? It´s the first serious rpg I/we ´ve made and played, though.. the two knights
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: hmm im not sure i will have the time hun, i will look into it if i can
2005-06-19 [Zab]: Ok. Only if you want, it´s not extremely necessary...bu
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: lol oh but i always behave (...usually ^_-)
2005-06-19 [Zab]: yeah^_^checked it yet? because we´re desiding what´s happened to the character, since we have no player....
2005-06-19 [Delladreing]: i had a look, i dont think i will have time to be a good rper
2005-06-19 [Zab]: oh, ok. I´ll tell her^_^
2005-06-20 [JWOlette]: hey was up how is everyone im srry i havent checked back in a while but ive been staying at my boyfriends house since i left kyles they dont want me home that much alone so i leave with them durring the day except for now i am home!! for the time being
2005-06-20 [Delladreing]: glad to see you back lil_one :) im fine thank you
2005-06-20 [JWOlette]: you are very welcome and i am so glad to be back!
2005-06-20 [Rondel]: Hi [JWOlette], welcome home! I'm glad to see that you've been looking after your safety. :) Who's the "they" who "dont want me home that much alone"? Your folks? Whoever it is, I'm glad they're taking that view of things, and that you're getting support from your SO's family. I hope you're all prepared to keep doing this for a while, if that's what it takes -- my first stalker (sounds like some kind of twisted Mattel toy...) turned up at my house (*counts*) 3 or 4 MONTHS after I got the restraining order -- the first time my parents left me home alone. That time, by sheer chance, a family friend had popped by unexpectedly and taken me out for ice cream (we came home to find the
2005-06-20 [Rondel]: stalker in front of my rural home -- so unless he was visiting the cows across the road, he was there because of my house); after that, the *next* time my parents decided it had "been long enough", I called a friend, who broke all land-speed records driving out to my house. Contrary to my warnings against getting into relationships too fast under these circumstances, I married that guy... ...we're still married, 15 years later. :) That said, have you got that restraining order yet? I'd apologize for being nosy, but you said you like having me mother hen you, so I'm going to. :P LOL {{{HUGS}}}
2005-06-20 [JWOlette]: that would be my big bro's and all my crew and ive always stayed with someone over summer so they are all used to it im the other kid everyones parents neva had and my folks could care less what happens to me or where i go i have neva spent more then 2 days at home in the summer at a time im always gettin kicked out for 2-3 weeks its normal routine at my house
2005-06-20 [Rondel]: Either way, birth family or "chosen family", I'm glad you've got people who have decided to make it their business to look out for you. :) I'd say more, but it's close to 4 am here, and I keep fallling asleep. One last thing thing -- did you get tht restraining order in process yet? *hopes so, very much*
2005-06-20 [a faerie tale]: Hey guys, I be back.
2005-06-21 [JWOlette]: yes i did the guy took me to the station and forced me to even though i doubt that it will work
2005-06-24 [Rondel]: Which guy? Regardless, I'm glad you got the order. Just so you know, the point of a restraining order is not (functionally) to keep the guy away from you; if he shows up, it won't make him leave. But what it WILL do is force the police to come out if he turns up within the restricted zone around you, again, AND it will give the police the power (and requirement) to put him in jail if he's still there when they get there. If he's got any sense, he'll leave before the police get there -- but then, he's left, which is the goal in the first place. Right? (Again, voice of experience speaking; in my case, the guy was an *experienced* crim, and took off before the police got there. *sigh*)
2005-06-24 [JWOlette]: there were 4 guys that took me to the station Kyle, Greg, Matt, and B-Man (Josh)
2005-06-24 [Rondel]: *applauds Kyle, Greg, Matt, and B-Man* From your mention of kissing your new SO, I take it that there are good things in life at the moment, too? I hope so. :) {{{HUGS}}} (from your friendly neighbourhood "mother hen") // Oh, and HI, [a faerie tale]! *waves vigorously* Welcome back!
2005-06-24 [JWOlette]: yes things are going great and i wouldnt be like this without your help *huggz back*
2005-06-25 [CelticMoon]: THERE FINISHED .... THERE ALL FINISHED FINISHED FINISHED FINISHED
2005-06-25 [Delladreing]: ...that your exams over sweety? welcome back *hugs*
2005-06-25 [CelticMoon]: YEP lol ::hugs:: no more school .... no more getting up early...... no more teachers telling me what to do ......no more getting up early lol
2005-06-25 [Delladreing]: lol so no more getting up early is a big thing then :p hehe well wait till you get a job m'dear, im on my lunch break just now, been working since half past 8 >.>
2005-06-25 [CelticMoon]: noooooooo not metion that evil wooooorrrd ......
2005-06-25 [Delladreing]: what, job?
2005-06-25 [CelticMoon]: ::covers ears:: nasty evil word
2005-06-25 [Delladreing]: ah yes hehe sorry my love
2005-06-25 [Zab]: ::grin:: work, job, school..
2005-06-25 [a faerie tale]: No more homework no more books no more teachers dirty looks. ^-^
2005-06-25 [Zab]: yay! a rhyme! or something..
2005-06-25 [a faerie tale]: I'll go with the or something.
2005-06-25 [Zab]: oki, go for that.
2005-06-26 [sezmo lex]: i wish i stayed at school forever!
2005-06-26 [nokaredes]: I still have another week...
2005-06-26 [Zab]: ...sezmo, do you like school?
2005-06-26 [a faerie tale]: I don't like the lectures, but I'll miss all my mates.
2005-06-26 [Zab]: yeah. My roommate quit school completely this summer, and I´ll miss her next year.
2005-06-26 [JWOlette]: hey guys was up im happy i dont have to go to summer skool yay!
2005-06-26 [Zab]: yay for that!
2005-06-26 [JWOlette]: im soo happy that means i get to hang out with the guys all summer hehehe but im not promising ill be good
2005-06-26 [Zab]: who would ask you to promise that? it should be a crime..
2005-06-26 [JWOlette]: my big brothers would and your righgt it should be a crime
2005-06-26 [a faerie tale]: My brother yells at his friends if thy make ONE move on me, with the repetetive line: "Dude! That's my sister!"
2005-06-26 [JWOlette]: for me its *if you even think about making one more move on my baby sister then i will hurt you so bad you wont even know what hit you*
2005-06-26 [Zab]: lol..my brother lives 8 hours drive away, so he´s quite powerless...
2005-06-26 [JWOlette]: mine live like 15-25 mins away so they are very powerful and they still enforce fear very well in the hearts of most boys after me
2005-06-26 [Zab]: ::grin:: Zakarias enforce fear in everyone in our capital...but when he calles himself Joel (his middlename) people arn´t afraid...Once two men was about to beat him up when one of them said ::Hey! Don´t you know that Zakarias?:: He answered ::yes..:: and both guys looked at each other then they backed off and said::oh! Sorry! No offence, right? :: and ran....hehe
2005-06-26 [Zab]: Zakarias is my brother...btw
2005-06-26 [JWOlette]: thats funny
2005-06-26 [Zab]: yeah...and completely true, actually. But I get´s scared when he calls from the hospital after have got in a fight with nazis.. ><
2005-06-27 [JWOlette]: thats always scary ive seen all 3 of mine beat up hit with bats and fall on their faces doing tricks on bikes and roller blades
2005-06-27 [Zab]: mm...
2005-06-27 [JWOlette]: that tends to happen a lot in summer so i spend a lot of time in the hospital cuz most of the fights were over me so i had to go and they are terrified of hospitals and want to see me suffer cuz i am to
2005-06-27 [Zab]: ::grin:: poor you..
2005-06-27 [JWOlette]: they are so mean to me ive seen so many broken bones cuts scrapes bruises ive lost count how many times ive been to the hospital
2005-06-27 [Zab]: aww..
2005-06-27 [JWOlette]: yeah it sucks big time to watch your big bro get stitches or get his arm poped back in place i hope i dont have to deal with it this summer
2005-06-27 [Zab]: yeah.
2005-06-27 [Rondel]: I'm told it's not a good sign when you walk into the Emergency Room and they pull your file from off of the TOP of the filing cabinet, without bothering to ask you your name, by which they are in the process of greeting you... *chuckle* ...ah, the good old days, when going into a hospital didn't put me into a state of anaphylaxis, as a result of exposure to the chemicals (cleansers, etc.)... ...anyway, on to the topic which brought me here tonight. I was reading a new-to-me web comic, and came across a couple of strips that I just *had* to share with you folks; the storyline in question starts with this one: http://www.som
2005-06-27 [Rondel]: -- but it was *this* one that pushed me over the edge into logging onto Elftown to share them with you folks: http://www.som
2005-06-27 [Delladreing]: *falls over laughing at the last one*
2005-06-27 [a faerie tale]: Oh, that. THAT was lovely.
2005-06-27 [JWOlette]: wow thoses were funny and they brought back a lot of memories of reading a certain someones rant on the wanna be pagan's and when we go to the hospital we dont check in or wait or anything they have a doctor on duty 24/7 that only deal with me and my big bros we walk in and the nurses just shake their heads and wave and we walk back to the room
2005-06-27 [Azuri]: Woot yay for somthing positive.
2005-06-28 [Rondel]: I'm glad you enjoyed those. LOL :) I happened across that webcomic recently, and have been reading my way through the archives ever since. However, judging by the June 13th newspost, I can't wait until I get to that particular strip. :) I've followed the link, and I must admit that I'm intrigued. If you haven't seen the newspost or link in question, you can find them at: http://www.som
2005-06-28 [Zab]: nice comics...^_-
2005-06-28 [Rondel]: I'm glad you liked 'em, [Zab]. :) I think I'm now officially hooked on this webcomic -- but then, it appeals to the side of me which likes dark humour involving offensive musicals about the crucifixion, dead-on satires of everyone from wannabe Wiccans to "fanboys", a cat with bone disease which is bald because of chemotherapy, & can ooze through grated air vents & absorb cute little kittens, thus smothering them to death; and D&D fanatics who don't think women can follow the game, resulting in their quitting after having their characters buggered by redneck animate trees (stats provided). Those who know me well enough would know that it's pretty much guaranteed to have me in stitches. ;)
2005-06-28 [Zab]: ::stares at all the words and tries to connect them:: O.O ::slowly gets it:: -.- o.o ::finally understands:: Well, You can be hooked up on them as much as you like ::lol::
2005-06-28 [Azuri]: hehe webcomics are nifftyness they are my crack:D i read like a billion of them
2005-06-28 [hanhepi]: omg, i just spent all morning reading that web comic.. that is awesome!!! i love it!
2005-06-29 [JWOlette]: omg ive spent the last 3 hours reading all of those comics i think ive found my favorite comic characters of all time
2005-06-29 [Zab]: I´m cursed... I know it. It was cast on me..eh..the 200th year befor christ, and...ehh...of a witch in..Jönköping.
2005-06-29 [Delladreing]: O.o...
2005-06-29 [Zab]: lol
2005-06-29 [Zab]: I´m feeling depressed and since I don´t really care if you wanna hear this or not I´ll just post it here anyway. Ignore it if you want.
2005-06-29 [Zab]: It´s just about me feeling pathetic and crap for beeing so lousy in english that I don´t even know if lousy is spelled that way and I like to write and I like to draw but I can´t show it to nobody because 1, I havn´t any scanner so I can upload my art and 2, I can´t write in english and people wouldn´t understand swedish and it just suck because I´d really like to show that I´m not a nogood but actually can do things and I get so damn frustrated because it feels like my whole life is a cyberworld were I can´t show what I can do and it shouldn´t be that important but right now it is important somehow and I really don´t like that...::takes breath and starts to cry::
2005-06-29 [nokaredes]: 1. Yes. Lousy is spelled like that ;) 2. plenty of people here read Swedish *pats you on the back*
2005-06-29 [Zab]: ::sigh:: no. Not most people I know here..but thanks anyway.
2005-06-29 [nokaredes]: You could do a search for people who speak Swedish...or who say they do...and nonchalantly start up conversations with them...
2005-06-29 [Zab]: but that´s not the friends I have. And how nice [Hedda] is, he´s not my friend. Bye. I´m going to sleep and hope to be in a better mood tomorrow.
2005-06-29 [nokaredes]: *hopes too*
2005-06-30 [Delladreing]: o.o night Zab...well morning now
2005-06-30 [Zab]: thanks...
2005-06-30 [hanhepi]: well, you seem to write better in english than most americans. i think if you wanted to try writing in english you would do just fine. :D and if you dont know a word in english, ask a friend. write in a mix of swedish and english, then go through and figgure out the translations later so you dont loose your train of thought. that worked verry well for my spanish speaking friends in school.
2005-06-30 [Zab]: ok, thanks^_^. I´ve lost my inspiration for now, but I´ll try to remember it next time.
2005-06-30 [hanhepi]: :)
2005-06-30 [Zab]: ^_-
2005-06-30 [Delladreing]: oh nuu its the attack of the smilies *runs*
2005-06-30 [Zab]: ,>.<,< ^-^ ^_^ -.-'' o.o o.o` o.O e.e @.@ XP XD
2005-06-30 [Delladreing]: *getsd the gun out*
2005-06-30 [Zab]: O.O AAAH! ::runs::
2005-06-30 [Delladreing]: *fires it into the air*
2005-06-30 [Zab]: ::hides and shivers under a table:: ><
2005-06-30 [Rondel]: I agree with [hanhepi], [Zab]; you write quite well in English (enough so that I hadn't realized that it wasn't your first language), and if you have to, you can always proofread your writing by running the Swedish version through an online translation program, to double-check your English wording. The idea of writing in a mixture of the two languages, so that you can keep the flow of your thoughts going as you write, then worrying about translating individual words only *after* the piece is fully written, sounds to me like a really logical and useful approach. But, frankly, if someone can talk to you for an extended period and not see how worthwhile you are, it is *they* who are pathetic.
2005-06-30 [Rondel]: I'm glad you folks enjoyed the webcomic. I have been working my way through the archives, and laughing so much as a result that I keep disturbing my daughter -- and this is one webcomic which I'm not quite ready to share with her at age 8, for reasons which are probably obvious to those of you who've read it. LOL But I'm hoping it will still be around when she's older, and will better understand and enjoy the humour; for now, I'm content to have seen SP bring a lasting smile to my husband's face upon his birthday, the likes of which I haven't seen there in FAR too long. *sigh* Always nice to find humour which can break through his pain to make him laugh, regardless.
2005-06-30 [Zab]: .... you didn´t? ...wow... I just feeld frustrated right then because , well, I won´t say it all over again, but I think it´s just as much a bad time right now... I´ve had some mayor moodswings err..lol?
2005-06-30 [Rondel]: Oh, and speaking of my husband, [Delladreing], he strongly recommends that you don't add an "h" to that firing; you're not old enough to have an heir yet, for one thing (and we don't need any scalp-splittin
2005-06-30 [Delladreing]: ...you are putting ideas inmy head of world domination now >.<, i cant do that to humanit, let alone have an heir, think of the catastrophes O.O
2005-06-30 [Rondel]: LOL = Laugh Out Loud, [Zab] -- and no, I honestly hadn't realized that English wasn't your first language. I was born in the US, and grew up there, and believe me, you've got the average American beat "hands down", in terms of the quality of your writing, even given the idiosyncrasies and peculiarities with which English is riddled.
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