2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: I'm sorry [Ocean Dreaming], didn't mean to get carried away.

2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: I have thought about doing a wiki of all or most of all the other wiki's inside of Elftown.

2004-09-21 [Ocean Dreaming]: It's alright. It's just that getting carried away like that doesn't help people very much. ^-^; And doing a wiki like that is utter madness. All the existing listing pages combined don't hold a quarter of the public wiki-pages. (and private ones are private for a reason). It's a work that is doomed to fail, I'm afraid. Of course you're free to make one, no one will stop you, but you'll probably bite off more than you can chew.

2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: I'm not talking about all wiki's at the moment. I meant just the wiki's that involve Elftown that are useful.

2004-09-21 [HiddenFire]: The Wiki´s Wiki Page does have an alphabetical listing... as does some other wiki-pages... I think... In any case it's close. What I thought [Imraith-Nymphial] was suggesting was a simple list of all the titles/orders/etc... that exist (Mayor, Council Member, Wiki Boss, Assembly, etc...), as well as a simple listing of all the help pages. They could be listed as help: A, help: B, etc...

2004-09-21 [Imraith-Nymphial]: well the english class is not here for the help with slag messages like LOL and ROLF which is still puzzleing me and I dont get the smiley thingies either except a smile (obvious) a cat and a wink!!

2004-09-21 [font]: I personally dont see that being much help to someone looking for help - At the moment if they need help with creating a wiki page (as an example) they come here and look under wiki help (and then look at the pages on offer in alphabetical order). If we had help pages for each letter, That same meber might spend a while looking for the help page they needed - Besides I dont think there are that many help pages to merit a ful alphabetical listing.

2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: [HiddenFire], not to be mean or anything, but the The Wiki´s Wiki Page is or has been poorly updated.

2004-09-21 [HiddenFire]: then A-E, F-J, etc... It wouldn't be much help to those that really need it but If I know know I'm looking for but can't think of the page name, it would be useful to be able to skim through some links instead of havving to dig through such a huge index. @.@

2004-09-21 [HiddenFire]: That's because only a few people are handling it at the moment and they actually put that stuff in on their own... which makes people lazy. I prefer to have people do their own work. *shrugs* There are others as well... but I can't think what they are. @.@

2004-09-21 [font]: The Help Index is really not that big at all - and as it is in categories - I can’t see how once you have went to the category you need, searching through a list of at most 13 links could possibly be too difficult or time consuming

2004-09-21 [HiddenFire]: no attention span means that even the smallest amount of digging, unless it yeilds immediate results, leads to frustration and then giving up. With as many "Why won't html work on my wiki?" questions you get in the forums it seems obvious that people don't like to dig through all this, even if it is a small amount. *shrugs* but that's their vice, not help's. @.@

2004-09-21 [HiddenFire]: I'm just being the devils advocate, don't mind me. I think an alphabetical listing would help me out. But I would rarely use it... *shrugs*

2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: I might be able to be some help to you [HiddenFire] with the The Wiki´s Wiki Page if you need.

2004-09-21 [font]: I can only see Alphabetical listing pages as more of a place to search than the current single help page. Thus meaning their attention spans being stretched more

2004-09-21 [HiddenFire]: I'm not even helping with it. Er... I'm not sure who is working with it either. I don't have the time for such things... moving to Phoenix in a week... still need to pack. @.@

2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: Oh. Have fun on the trip then.

2004-09-21 [Imraith-Nymphial]: I am building a wiki with a friend and I have colour for my page but she does not. Can I use the colour html tags I got for donating in the wiki edit this page section at all?

2004-09-21 [Imraith-Nymphial]: also I have short term memory problems which is why I always get lostr on elftown and my bookmarked list is overflowing

2004-09-21 [HiddenFire]: I was not aware that the color tags worked in the wiki.

2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: I'm not sure. That is something I can't help at. Possible if you own the wiki page.

2004-09-21 [True, plain and simple]: No, they are only supposed to work in houses.

2004-09-21 [Imraith-Nymphial]: ok well that saved me lots of frustration

2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: I didn't know that neither. I haven't yet the time to donate yet.

2004-09-21 [Imraith-Nymphial]: donations take money not time. I wonder what you get if you donate twice?

2004-09-21 [Young J.C.]: I know it takes money... jeez. I meant I haven't had the time to put my checks into my checking accout to have money inside my checking account.

2004-09-21 [Imraith-Nymphial]: sorry thought you misunderstood

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: weres elftown graphics?

2004-09-22 [irulan]: Here - Elftown Graphics =)

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: see told you we need more directions I'm always losing things

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: Haha. It's cool.

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: no thats frustrating

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: What could someone do?

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: put more links in on one page that need 1 book mark and you can find the others from there

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: I think someone, if not already done, make a wiki page with just the Elftown help at.

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: but even the help does not carryn all the useful info. The graphics page is a case in point

2004-09-22 [True, plain and simple]: Help, <URL:help.html>, Elftown - Help, Index.

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: Ok, an Efltown wiki to show all the offical Elftown wiki's.

2004-09-22 [True, plain and simple]: All official Elftown wiki-pages should be pretty easy to find within 2-3 clicks of of index, or help. There are approximately 100-200 official wiki-pages.

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: Not to bad then.

2004-09-22 [Sunrose]: Btw. thanks [Imraith-Nymphial]! I will add smilies to English Classroom for you! ^^

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: thanx, :) and I am a good student but a forgetful one

2004-09-22 [People of the Blood]: why was [Lycan] banned what uploading art rule did she break? she wasn't on her account for a while and now she can't get on... please help

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: are all these people the same person?

2004-09-22 [font]: mmm both created 'around' the same time and both have a similar 'talk to you after my vacation' message

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: thats what I thought and [Lycan] was pestering me last night about [I'm Blind and it sux!!] and I think thats the same person too as well as [frankie j] possibly

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: I kept my mouth shut on that person. Didn't want to be 'rude' to the same person twice.

2004-09-22 [font]: heh well their mood gives that away - (if you know me message me on [Lycan])

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: pardon?

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: Yes, that was the bigest mistake I assume... haha.

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: they have been similar for a few months now. Have you seen thier wiki, poems turned into songs? If it is the same persom then they must have multiple personality disorder

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: Or, just not very bright.

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: possibly. I caught them out on the wiki for trying to pass stuff off from a film as thier own. As my tutor used to say a plagiarist is someone who is not only lazy but sloppy too and it always stands out and brings them low

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: Did they, or they put it on their house?

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: the wiki and they were not happy when i said i would report them but they took it off

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: it was from a film about a girl who writes v emotional poetry and the poem they nabbed was the 'lead' one in the film

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: Never heard of that movie...

2004-09-22 [Imraith-Nymphial]: cant remember the name

2004-09-22 [Young J.C.]: That's ok.

2004-09-23 [The UnBlissed]: how do you do them shape fonts?

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: You have to be more clearer then that.

2004-09-23 [Imraith-Nymphial]: what shape fonts>

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: I was also confused myself.

2004-09-23 [The UnBlissed]: do you know how to write Iconic Symbols Font? It's like this..¤°˚°¤¤°˚°☆§.

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: You just did it?

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: Oh... um. The only way I can think of is doing it in Microsoft Word or Word Perfect and copy and paste it from there. You may have to ask others on how to do that, I'm helpless with you on that till I learn on how.

2004-09-23 [The UnBlissed]: hmmmm...I did copy & paste from my Word Perfect, but it comes out in english....

2004-09-23 [Imraith-Nymphial]: ah thsats what it is call. does that include the odd but startling pictures of death and ands and tatoos in dashes and dots all over

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: Like I said, I'm clueless about this single topic.

2004-09-23 [The UnBlissed]: who should I ask about this?

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: Maybe ask the person that you copied it from.

2004-09-23 [The UnBlissed]: I did from Adnama, but she said the same thing...

2004-09-23 [Imraith-Nymphial]: so wander around and look for more

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: Wow... I was right then [The UnBlissed]?

2004-09-23 [The UnBlissed]: yeah...but I knew that before she told me...I just came to her wiki and asked that question...

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: I don't know how on any other option.

2004-09-23 [Imraith-Nymphial]: you could search the net for a copy of the font if it exists

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: [The UnBlissed] would then have to download it then so he could be able to type in it.

2004-09-23 [HiddenFire]: alt codes might help you some. ^_^

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: That would help [HiddenFire], but seems kind of hard to remember it all.

2004-09-23 [HiddenFire]: Thus the wiki to use as reference. You'de have to use some program otherwise.

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: I know.

2004-09-23 [People of the Blood]: just thought you should know that the only reason [Lycan] and [frankie j] say that they are going on vacation is because they are on vacation ok?? also [I'm Blind and it sux!!] turned the wiki poems turned song lyric over to lycan and lycan said that i'm blind could use her account ok?? that's the only reason that i'm blind's mood is that ok?? none of us are clones i promise we are all really good friends though!!

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: Umm... How good of friends?

2004-09-23 [Imraith-Nymphial]: will you give over with these outbursts, they do your reputation no good poor as it is it can be bettered you know

2004-09-23 [Young J.C.]: I agree [Imraith-Nymphial]!

2004-09-23 [People of the Blood]: ok sorry but we "grew" up together at least i'm blind and i did we met arianna when she came up there for a while... but then when i moved away we could talk on here when we couldn't afford or couldn't call each other... please don't hate me please??

2004-09-23 [font]: hmmm - well ive sent a message to 'those who know all' So if anything is to be done about this they will do it. If not then im sorry - but posting more messages on help wont help your case.

2004-09-23 [Ocean Dreaming]: We're talking about the banning of [Lycan]? She ignored warnings and claimed other people's art as her own. It violates the rules. She was warned, she choose to ignore them. She's got to deal with the consequences. (Yes, actions have consequences, dears). Discussion closed. Further comments on the matter will be deleted. If the matter is NOT still about the banning - go to another wiki-page. It'll be easier to be helped there. Be clear on what you request and, equally important, WHY you request it.

2004-09-23 [Ocean Dreaming]: This is also a reminder to everyone else, actually. Keep comments on topic and if you can't help someone - be quiet. I know you all want to help, but especially in cases like this you end up doing more harm than good. Or that's the most frequent scenario, anyway.

2004-09-28 [The UnBlissed]: Hero Sactuary@wiki how do you get to this wiki? when I clicked it...the link was wrong

2004-09-28 [Young J.C.]: Where is it that you saw the link at, then I may be able to help you.

2004-09-28 [HiddenFire]: It's probably misspelled.

2004-09-28 [Young J.C.]: That is what I have assumed, but I thought to try to help [The UnBlissed] out.

2004-09-28 [Sunrose]: Sanctuary

2004-10-01 [Young J.C.]: How did you do that? How did you get it to the old version again?

2004-10-01 [True, plain and simple]: Just go back a version when you have the edit box open, and submit it.

2004-10-01 [Young J.C.]: Okay. That's cool. Now I know.

2004-10-05 [ツ Molly]: yea ok i know how to join wiki's but i cant put the "logos" on my house how do i do that?

2004-10-05 [Kaimee]: you get the url of the picture (right-click/properties) and, while changing your house data, in your description add <IMG:past url in this space> :)

2004-10-05 [Ocean Dreaming]: Usually, wiki-page-clubs will have a small section of text to copy/paste into your house too. ^-^

2004-10-05 [Young J.C.]: I showed her.

2004-10-06 [giggles04]: are we allowed to put music on our houses??

2004-10-06 [Nita]: In what way?

2004-10-09 [Imraith-Nymphial]: what about the copyright on song lyrics? Are they allowed on our houses?

2004-10-09 [Young J.C.]: That is what I would like to know [Imraith-Nymphial].

2004-10-09 [Imraith-Nymphial]: nobody ever seems to have a straight answer whenever I ask them

2004-10-09 [Young J.C.]: Haha.

2004-10-09 [Imraith-Nymphial]: surely they would be copyright to each band? And at the very least have a reference to the band, song and album they are from. and the website that supplied them if thats the case

2004-10-09 [Calico Tiger]: Generally, a few stanzas here and there (and crediting them to the proper author/band) is alright. But filling your bio with complete songs is not alright. We want to read what you can write :)

2004-10-11 [_jayme]: how do you get rid of a friend you don't want anymore?

2004-10-11 [font]: You can go to your relations page and click on the 'End Relation' button :)

2004-10-11 [Young J.C.]: But that would send them a message telling them. Is there a way so it doesn't?

2004-10-11 [font]: Nope - not that I am aware of.

2004-10-11 [Sunrose]: If you delete it before the person reads it, then the person won't recieve it.

2004-10-11 [Young J.C.]: Okay... that is smart! But, it would show in the sent messages though?

2004-10-11 [Sunrose]: Not if you delete it in the sent messages, that is what I am talking about. End the relation, then go to your sent messages and delete the message. If you deleted it before the reciever read it then it will not be sent.

2004-10-16 [giggles04]: Like i mean music as in that plays when you enter their house or if you click on a link?? sorry it took so long to reply

2004-10-16 [Young J.C.]: Regualr HTML is not aloud and will not work, only peudo HTML works and the peudo HTML does not support that type of link.

2004-10-16 [giggles04]: OK thanks...

2004-10-16 [Young J.C.]: Your welcome.

2004-10-17 [butt faery]: how do i paste a banner onto my hompage thing

2004-10-17 [Sunrose]: How do you paste a banner on your house? Go to the banner, rightclick "Properties". Copy the url and paste it in here: <IMG:paste url here>. Then go to "Change my personal data" and paste that in your house.

2004-10-17 [delete me bitches]: how do i get the counter thing in my house?

2004-10-17 [Sunrose]: From elftown graphics? I personally am not sure if it can be put in a house, I think it's meant for wiki's. Better ask [65tyjvw45b] about that, if he has time.

2004-10-18 [Young J.C.]: I got my counter from the actually website.

2004-10-18 [Calico Tiger]: Remember, we don't want random graphics like most of those counters are :) So if it's one of those breathing dragon ones, animated cat ones, etc.... you definitely can't put it up. But if it's a graphic that you created (as per the Uploading Art Rules), then it should be fine :)

2004-10-18 [Young J.C.]: It is only in my wiki though.

2004-10-18 [Daisy le Fleur]: I have a lot of pics that I want to upload to my house. But I want to have them on their own little page that I can link to my house. How do I do that?

2004-10-18 [Young J.C.]: You do that through a wiki.

2004-10-19 [Sunrose]: You upload your pictures on your house. Rightclick "Properties" and save the url. Then create a wiki and paste the urls there. The url should be pasted in <IMG:paste url here>, because if you don't you will only see the actual urls and not the pictures. Do you know how to make a wiki and a link on your house to a wiki?

2004-10-19 [Sunrose]: Explenation on wiki's can be found here: CNETG9...

2004-10-20 [Daisy le Fleur]: THanks..I figured out how to put them in my house..but not how to make a wiki, I'll use your advise thanks!

2004-10-20 [Sunrose]: You're welcome!

2004-10-21 [Ashykins]: How do I edit my profile. I feel really dumb, but I gotta know... LOL

2004-10-21 [Sunrose]: Click 'Change Personal Data' on the right.. :)

2004-10-22 [Ashykins]: What do you mean when you say to paste the URL in ? I don't get it. Lol. I noticed that and I do feel dumb.

2004-10-22 [Sunrose]: You type <IMG: > and put the url after IMG:

2004-10-23 [Gwendolen]: Sorry to bother, but how could I get somekind of comment from secret service to my house to warn others of artistic nudity there's often shown... *cough*

2004-10-23 [Sunrose]: You can ask a specific guard: just pick one from Guards and send a personal message... :)

2004-10-23 [Gwendolen]: Allright, thank you. ^-^

2004-10-23 [Sunrose]: You're welcome! :)

2004-10-27 [Shawndonda]: how do I put my friends's pictures on my house without messing up my picture of me?

2004-10-27 [irulan]: Do you want to put the picture in your description?

2004-10-27 [Shawndonda]: yes

2004-10-27 [Sunrose]: You can upload the picture on your house first or go to your friends house where she has the picture. Put the mouse on the picture, right click 'Properties' and copy the url. Then paste the url in here: <IMG:paste url here>. Then go to 'Change my personal data' and put it in your description, click on 'Change personal data' at the botom and you have your friend spicture on your house. Of course you need his/her approval to do this and if it's a picture of his/her art you could best also put a note underneath crediting him/her for it...

2004-10-27 [Shawndonda]: I have tryed that and it wont let me

2004-10-27 [Sunrose]: Won't let you do what?

2004-10-27 [Shawndonda]: if I try to put the url in my description it just comes out with the url and no picture

2004-10-27 [Sunrose]: You pasted the url like this: <IMG:url> ?

2004-10-27 [Shawndonda]: yes

2004-10-27 [Sunrose]: Can you send me the url in a personal message and show me how you inline it?

2004-10-27 [Shawndonda]: I think I can

2004-10-29 [Ocean Dreaming]: Actually, if it is someone else's picture, you need a bit more than a credit note. Please read the Uploading Art Rules to see how other people's art must be credited.

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: hmm I said that wrong (incomplete), but it was about a photograph of her friend (not an art one) this time anyway...eh eh...has been fixed.. :)

2004-10-29 [Shawndonda]: yeah she told me that I could put the pics up because 1 they were taken at my house and 2 we are best friends

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: Ah, but now we were talking about art, not about pictures... :)

2004-10-30 [Black_Mohawk]: could u tell me how to unblock people

2004-10-30 [True, plain and simple]: Click the Blocked List button at the top of the page, and then hit the Unblock button by the person's name.

2004-10-31 [Erykun]: how do u mack ur own .css and put it on ths index/

2004-10-31 [curly girly]: how do I take a poll?

2004-10-31 [Young J.C.]: On top of teh members house, it will say members poll, if they have one activated it will show you there. Then read the qeustions, and pick your answer, then push submit.

2004-10-31 [curly girly]: oh ok, thanks!

2004-10-31 [Erykun]: how do u mack ur own .css and put it on ths index/

2004-10-31 [Young J.C.]: I'll message you with that.

2004-11-01 [to a new?]: how do you delete an elftown relation or can you?

2004-11-01 [Sunrose]: Yes you can...go to your list of relations and behind every name you see a button saying 'End relation', if you click that the relation with that 'friend' will be terminated..; an automatic message will be sent that you ended the relation.

2004-11-02 [Erykun]: why would you do that

2004-11-07 [Deadly_DNA_Girl]: just got a question... are there rules for contests or do elftowners just make there own?

2004-11-07 [True, plain and simple]: Essentially there are no rules, although obviously holding a contest in violation of basic Elftown rules isn't a very good idea. ;)

2004-11-07 [Deadly_DNA_Girl]: hehe, I know that much ;) aren't there any rules like: 'don't tell people to vote for you' and stuff

2004-11-07 [True, plain and simple]: Common curteousy.. :) Plus that generally falls under spam, and we don't allow that. Asking them nicely to vote if you know them might not be that bad though, but that's circumstantial. ;)

2004-11-07 [Deadly_DNA_Girl]: ok... cos a contest I'm in has restarted their poll now, cos somebody was asking for votes the whole time.... thx for the info ;)

2004-11-10 [footfalls]: umm I'm just wondering how I can find all the contest's i've been searching for ages but I just don't seem too find the page..

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: Most are announced on mainstreet when they are held, more can be found on Competitions.. :)

2004-11-10 [irulan]: If you are looking for non-official contests, you can check out Art Contests.

2004-11-11 [poisoned_hearts]: i need someones help pleas with my mail...i deleted a message before i opened it..and now it keeps saying i have 1 message but i dont..and everytime i click it, it goes to my "view message" box thing! its annoying helpppppppp

2004-11-11 [BLAH2001]: um..how do u get that question thing that asks like 100 questions about urself

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: You can go on someone's house who has it and ask permission to copy the questionlist... :)

2004-11-11 [dr]: where would I report if someone if they deleted my wiki page on purpose and left a mean message?

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Go to there house and report it there.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: You were able to restore the wiki again?

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: I did it for her.

2004-11-12 [footfalls]: thank you so much :0D

2004-11-12 [Young J.C.]: You're welcome.

2004-11-13 [xRage_Despairx]: How do I change my username? Message me on my page...not this page

2004-11-14 [bootywithsmack]: i need help figuring out how to get more then 1 picture on my page. i've uploaded like 10 but i can only see 1....what do i do!!! 

2004-11-14 [Sunrose]: You can put an image in your description by going to the image, right click 'Propertries', copy the url and paste it like this in your description: <IMG:paste url here>

2004-11-14 [brandygurl]: HOw can u change something on ur Profile? I am so confusededdid

2004-11-14 [HiddenFire]: In your house there is a button (near the top) labled "Change Personal Data". Click on it and you can update whatever you need to. Your description is, of course, in the text box with the lable "Discription" next to it. ^_^

2004-11-16 [thoughtfox]: Ok, elftown is running really slowly on my PC and it doesn't load the whole page. What can be done?

2004-11-16 [Sunrose]: You can wait until it gets back up again.. :)

2004-11-16 [thoughtfox]: oh. When does it get back up?

2004-11-16 [Sunrose]: On advanced help you can see the downtimes of Elftown: other than those downtimes it isn't predictable when ET will be down a bit...sometimes it happens because of many members being online at once or because something needs updating..etc

2004-11-16 [thoughtfox]: by dragons! well, it definitely seems worth it. Thanks, and Blessed Be

2004-11-18 [Ali*]: can anyone help me?i have uploaded a pic of myself on my page but it wont show up (go to my house to see if you dont know what i mean) i dont see whats wrong with it,can anyone tell me whats happened and how i can fix it?

2004-11-18 [Sunrose]: what kind of file did you try to upload?

2004-11-18 [Ali*]: psd,does that make any difference?

2004-11-18 [Sunrose]: I'm not sure but that could be the problem yes, try upload it as a JPEG, GIF or PNG file..

2004-11-18 [Ali*]: ok,i'll try that.thanks!