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2005-08-07 [moira hawthorne]: there are alot more interesting images than these by those same artists.. why should we be happy that we are offer the least creative images...
2005-08-07 [Sunrose]: This page only includes dividers and bullets, not images in general. Quite frankly Moira you are not happy with any compromise. You have been told many times the limits are subject to change and so is this page, yet you show up everywhere to bitch and moan and I am getting pretty sick of it. Not one single thing you did so far has been constructive, solely destructive.
2005-08-07 [Kiristo]: *sigh* I fear this problem shall never be resolved in a peaceful way as most of us had hoped.....
2005-08-07 [Sunrose]: Ah the point is that good suggestions are wanted, not endless whining that has already been answered to. If you want to suggest a limit or an image, please do so. Or if you have another solution, then that is also welcome. Either way the limits are going to be there somehow, so there is no point in behaving like Moira.
2005-08-07 [Kiristo]: Forgive me, I do not wish to behave in such a way. There just seems to be so many people like that who don't wish to listen to things like the suggestions and ignore them.
2005-08-07 [Sunrose]: What do you wish to suggest? :)
2005-08-07 [Kiristo]: Hmm...I'm still working out that to make it fair to the ETers and to still have the limiations. I'm a deep thinker and like to work things out fully before acctually making them public....So when I'm done I will suggest it.^^
2005-08-07 [Sunrose]: Okay, that's cool :)
2005-08-07 [Kiristo]: ^^=
2005-08-07 [pixish]: In response to an earlier comment, I have a suggestion for those who feel that these bullets and dividers do not convey your personality. Why not pick your favourite divider or bullet and then a complimentary one from here and use your favourite divider as a feature? Then you could use it once or twice, it would only take up 2 out of your 10 image limit and you could still use these 'free' dividers AND show your personality.
2005-08-07 [moira hawthorne]: why not have all images donated to elftown graghics that are buttelts or dividers off the limitions???.. as long as they conform to the uploading arts rule.. and are donated to elftown graghic and are a bullet or divider??? why pick just these?
2005-08-07 [True, plain and simple]: Some dividers are quite big, so it sort of defeats the purpose of the limit to some extent. Just suggest the specific ones you want; that'd be a lot easier of a way to get the ones you want to use. I told a EGG member to pick non-annoying dividers and bullets, thus this list was created. If something is missing, we need the suggestion to add _____ image.
2005-08-07 [moira hawthorne]: b/c Im not thinking of just myself.. Im thinking that alot of different artist and people would each have their own favourites.. and not every one would want the same ones
2005-08-07 [moira hawthorne]: and these would be limited to the dividers and bullets
2005-08-07 [True, plain and simple]: That's why they can suggest they be added to the list! ;)
2005-08-07 [Dil*]: I think you guys should add my jewel divider thing (grayish one with black setting), cause' it's not that big and it *was* quite popular :P
2005-08-07 [Dil*]: and *everybody* loved [liiga]'s 'slanted eyes' dividers..they
2005-08-07 [Windstar]: I agree, Dilandau's jewels are awesome. I use'em in my wiki ^^ I'll have to make a few to suggest *grin*
2005-08-07 [threelade]: If you have a large amount of pictures that you want to download with dividers why not just make a wiki page and link it to your home page. You can put what you want up (within reason) without the 10 image limit
2005-08-07 [Elmiira]: hmm, I'm not planning to full my house with random inages, there was some badges I had got like the one from poetry corner, and welcome things and other decorations to make my house a bit nicer. if I had the dividers as nonimages, I could get the pics I had there back. There wasn't actually any photos even then..
2005-08-07 [Elmiira]: and I would like to suggest 
and the other colour versions of this here. It's not big or annoying but really beautiful..
2005-08-07 [True, plain and simple]: [Dil*] : I need URLs. [Elmiira] : Noted.
2005-08-07 [Elmiira]: okay. thanks.. *waits to see if her suggestions come to the list*
2005-08-07 [Penguinlord]: is it not simpler to just say "bullet points and dividers are nonimages. Everything else counts against the limit"
2005-08-07 [iippo]: *will devolve to self-created ASCII-art until the image limitation is solved* All hail the ~~~~ -dividers! :P But this nonimage thing is uberness. I hope a lot more of EG gets chosen here also.
2005-08-07 [Fizban]: i am confused, and way out of this loop...i just started looking around et when i couldnt change my house because it had more than 10 images...and in the news it didnt say as to why there was a limit, so i was just making sure here, but the limit was spawned so that houses dont take forever to load for those without fast internet, or was it because of the desire to decrease the number of random images in houses??
2005-08-07 [Fizban]: also, what exactly is random art?? how does one completely discern between somehting that means something, and images that are pointless and random?? i mean sometimes i suppose it would be pretty obvious, but sometimes it isnt...oh well, simply bringing that up because to me its really easy to have more than 10 images without being random, i probable have 30...
2005-08-07 [moira hawthorne]: define random images? ramdom images off the net are already against the rules of uploading art
2005-08-07 [moira hawthorne]: art made by artists on elftown the art who's house it is ... that artists friends or those imges donated by artist donated to elftown shouldnt be considered random images. when used in their house to compliment text and decribe the artist
2005-08-07 [Fizban]: i know that images of the net are against the rules, i report it all the time...i mean images that have no meaning, i thought thats what was meant by random images, and the reason i was bringing it up was because if that was the reason that there was a 10 image limit created...i just mean i have like 30, and none are random they are all attributed to wikis that i am in and describe myself (ie frog lover wiki shows i love frogs) i mean i dont have a big problem getting rid of these or deporting them to a wiki, but other images that create a problem for me...i am just confused as to why the liimit was created thats all...
2005-08-07 [Fizban]: oh i am sorry exactly 37 images...oy
2005-08-07 [Dil*]: 
I suggest this one :P
2005-08-07 [Dil*]: there's more in eg dividers 2, but these eyes were *VASTLY* popular, if not one of the most used ones.
2005-08-07 [Charybdis]: Are there plans to eventually add most of EG to this list? Also, how will it be organized when the number of images has increased so much as to make the wiki a bit unwieldy?
2005-08-07 [Fizban]: ((definetly the liga stuff!! there great!!!!))
2005-08-07 [Fizban]: but yeah can anyone just tell me why this 10image rules was made?? or, do i hafta ask hedda??
2005-08-07 [Kiristo]: u can't ask hedda, I take it u don't remeber the alarm note...
2005-08-07 [Kiristo]: If u don't like it, u can always just go to the suggestion wiki
2005-08-07 [Fizban]: the alarm note??^_^ yay now where getting somewhere...wh
2005-08-07 [Fizban]: althou i looked and he seems really busy, i will wait...poor dude so much to do...hes great^_^...oh well i iwill just wait till everythings over with before i get any answers...
2005-08-07 [Kiristo]: A while ago there was an alarm note that hedda doesn't want anyone messagening her about the images, that everyone has to go to the suggestion wiki if they want to say anything.
2005-08-07 [moira hawthorne]: HEDDA IS A GUY...
2005-08-07 [Kiristo]: he/she whatever! That's not the point! The point is, if your going to complain then take ur butt to the suggetion wiki and stop being an @$$!!!
2005-08-07 [pixish]: The 10 image limit is just a trial for now. The reason there has been no news on it is because the limits are not final yet.
2005-08-07 [True, plain and simple]: [Dil*] : Noted.
2005-08-08 [Fizban]: oh...okay actually never mind that makes me angry, oh and dont call me an ass if you dont know how to read, i am not complaining i am seeking information, i am not complaing about the limit i am trying to find out why it was put up, dont insult someone for something they didnt do, that makes an Ass out of u and me...
2005-08-08 [Kiristo]: That wasn't pointed to you, but to anyone who comes to flame, in general. Moira is one who should go to the suggestion forum instead of flaming. Though it doesn't rule you out either.
2005-08-08 [Kiristo]: I'm am no longer going to participat in this rediculous conversation when it is odveous what needs to be done. The suggestion forum is there for a reason, if anyone has a problem with the limitations, then go there.
2005-08-08 [Fizban]: okay...problem with the limitations, is one thing...but can no one here just tell me why they were instituted?? or should i just go to another wiki now...i mean this is a wiki all about the change someone has to know why there was a change in the first place for christs sake..
2005-08-08 [Elmiira]: I think it was exactly for people like hmm.. you? who put dozens of images in their houses, it's totally the same if there are pics of themselves in 45 different positions or just 37 different wiki-badges, cause it takes an year to downloadand then there really nothing very interesting to see. That's why. I don't like it to be only 10 images either, cause it makes to me problems with the dividers I really want to have, but I still understand really well WHY they put it. And it was meant that you should change your house by taking the unimportant images away, instead of not being able to change it at all. There is no rule without a reason.
2005-08-08 [Fizban]: no there isnt a rule without a reason, wich if i thought this was one such rule i wouldnt have come seeking answers but seeking to complain, now that i know thats why it was created i will change my house...but the problem for me is that there are 13 images that are actually meaningful and not there just because i was bored and felt like putting them up...but i cant have them cause i cant change my house...withou
2005-08-08 [Lothuriel]: LOL...And tomorrow on As The World Turns....come on you guys lighten up! If you want to voice your opinions in the official way, there is a poll on Main Street for you to vote on house size and limitations. *hands out cookies to everyone*
2005-08-08 [hanhepi]: ok, somehow, even after reading all that crap, i managed to miss wheter or not it was decided if spawn's little simple kind of boring dividers were going to be added. lol. (i particularly like the little starry one. ans was thinking of useing it, instead of the other one i use that they did)
2005-08-08 [pixish]: I think True said that he noted your suggestions :P
2005-08-09 [hanhepi]: oh hell. lol totaly didnt see that.
2005-08-10 [Zab]: so...if there are any suggestions on dividers that could be here..is it here we should post them? And are there any criteras about the dividers that should be put up?
2005-08-10 [Jay Ladlehaus]: Is there any concern the members might abuse these image through overuse in the house (I'm talking like 100+)?
2005-08-10 [pixish]: Yes, suggestions can be posted in this wiki. I am not sure about the criteria...non annoying? :P
2005-08-10 [True, plain and simple]: The criteria is me deciding whether or not I'll consider them. ;) And if the members overuse the dividers somehow, then we'll deal with that on a case by case basis.
2005-08-10 [Jay Ladlehaus]: fair enough :)
2005-08-10 [True, plain and simple]: I'd like to think no one is pathetic enough to put four hundred lines of dividers just because they can, but we'll see.
2005-08-10 [Deadlock jester]: yea...that would be kinda sad...
2005-08-10 [shotokan_gal]: Well now you go putting the idea in people's heads... way to go guys ;) *thinks someone somewhere would be moronic enough to do that anyway though*
2005-08-10 [Jay Ladlehaus]: lol I'm sure we'd all like to think no one is that pathetic, but I think we also know that eventually we're going to see it happen. I'll bet real money against anyone who thinks otherwise :P
2005-08-10 [True, plain and simple]: ;)
2005-08-10 [Heartless_Angel]: I think we would rather hope not...that would just be sad
2005-08-10 [Zab]: ok...maybe I'll suggest a divider later then..hm..^^
2005-08-10 [Heartless_Angel]: It is greeeeen
2005-08-10 [Zab]: I suggest this one: http://elftown
2005-08-10 [True, plain and simple]: Both noted.
2005-08-10 [Zab]: Thanks.^^ hm..there are with blue and pink stones as well. If it's good enough.
2005-08-10 [Erestor]: True, you sound like Sunny on the featured members page.
2005-08-10 [True, plain and simple]: Yeah, but I'm less energetic / more heartless. ;)
2005-08-10 [Dil*]: ...you could pass down some work if you feel you're swamped :P
2005-08-10 [True, plain and simple]: Not at all.
2005-08-10 [Dil*]: oh, okay, do you know when the changes to the rules will be applied? Has elftown descript polling been noted?
2005-08-11 [Kileaiya]: I would like to suggest this divider by [Ittai] http://elftown
2005-08-18 [ArchangelGabriel]: Could i suggest this one: http://elftown
2005-08-18 [True, plain and simple]: Both noted (somehow I missed the first one before, sorry).
2005-08-18 [ArchangelGabriel]: thats ok ^_^
2005-08-18 [Dil*]: hmmmm, so liigas and my dividers were not good?? If so, why? Too big...or takes too much time to load...if I knew maybe I could suggest some more valid dividers.
2005-08-18 [True, plain and simple]: Too big (as per [Hedda]'s decision). 
2005-08-18 [Dil*]: awww...could I resize it..would it be okay then?
2005-08-18 [True, plain and simple]: If it roughly fits within that scale, then I'll take another look at it, yes. ;)
2005-08-18 [Dil*]: thanks..oh god, my length is wayyy off, well Ill have fun with this.
2005-08-18 [True, plain and simple]: Well, for people with small resolutions too much bigger causes some problems depending whether or not they have two images in the house, so.. :/
2005-08-18 [Zab]: 500x34? Ok, I'll have that in mind..^_^
2005-08-18 [Dil*]: ya I understand..th
2005-08-19 [Zab]: may I suggest these two? http://elftown
2005-08-19 [True, plain and simple]: Noted.
2005-08-19 [FiSHr.]: 500x34 *notes it down*
2005-08-23 [Sunrose]: omg people talk about me :o
2005-08-23 [Erestor]: It's becasue your so popular ;)
2005-08-23 [Sunrose]: Hmm =p
2005-08-23 [Elmiira]: sunrose rules
2005-08-23 [Sunrose]: *waves the sceptor* :P
2005-08-23 [Lothuriel]: What are the chances of getting a pink flower instead of a blue one up there?
2005-08-23 [Sunrose]: If a pink one exists I believe all you need to do is copy the url here and wait for TPS :)
2005-08-23 [Dil*]: true, I resized mine..but it is a bit large than the scale...mine is 40 pixels tall...here it is 
2005-08-23 [True, plain and simple]: Noted.
2005-08-23 [Lothuriel]: 
I made this one to go with my fall decor, if you are interested. I believe it fits the requirements.
2005-08-23 [True, plain and simple]: Noted
2005-08-24 [moira hawthorne]: 
2005-08-24 [True, plain and simple]: Noted
2005-09-01 [Cougar]: are any of the eyes that were made going to be put up there or do we all have to just suffer b/c we can't change our houses...
2005-09-04 [Tal Anduril]: Thanks for the borders guys, was missing the color in my presentation.
2005-09-04 [ArchangelGabriel]: Are the images we can see the only ones we have to choose from or other on the nonimages list? I know they're being noted but i haven't seen any of thm go up.....
2005-09-04 [True, plain and simple]: If they aren't up there, you can't use them as non-images. Either because they were suggested before the last page change and denied, or [Hedda] has been busy and I haven't bothered him with the new list of approved images since then.
2005-09-04 [ArchangelGabriel]: Cool. Thanks.
2005-09-08 [Lothuriel]: So, that is why my divider is still taking up part of my 10 image limit?
2005-09-08 [True, plain and simple]: Yes. Once [Hedda] and I have more time, it should be added.
2005-09-08 [Lothuriel]: ok, thanks
2005-09-14 [cobi]: what about the other ETGs?
2005-09-29 [cobi]: and the images supporting guards and ET rules and way of life?
2005-10-10 [Cougar]: o.o i would love this... if it were green....... 
2005-10-10 [Charybdis]: What kind of green? I might be able to do that :)
2005-10-10 [Cougar]: just green... solong as it doesn't look like snot o.O; a nice bright green to contrast the black would be nice..
2005-10-11 [Charybdis]: I added one to EG Charybdis Dividers, about halfway down... is that the kind of green you were thinking of? I can always tweak it :)
2005-10-11 [Cougar]: Oh it's lovely! now if i can just get it on the non images. >< ^_^ thank you!
2005-10-11 [Charybdis]: No problem :)
2005-10-11 [Zab]: I see neither of my suggestions were accepted? ah, fair enough, I guess there are a good reason. :) It's nice to know here are some dividers and bullets to chose fron, anyway. :D
2005-10-11 [True, plain and simple]: Nothing has been approved / disproved since the last time that I editted this page. So if your suggestion was before that, yes, if not, no.
2005-10-12 [Zab]: It was before the last two times I think. :) I'm a little curious on why they weren't accepted, but I guess you don't have time to check it and explain. :) Anyway good work and a perfect and well-needed idea. ^_^
2005-10-12 [True, plain and simple]: I'll check sometime (today or tomorrow, I guess).
2005-10-13 [Zab]: Thank you, it's appreciated. :D
2005-10-13 [Dil*]: awww, dang, rejected again! dil=sad.
2005-11-18 [Ironballs "the Preposterous One"]: Hey, look at that. Some of my buttons made it in here! ^_^
2005-11-18 [Ironballs "the Preposterous One"]: I'd been looking for this page for a LONG time. *starts watching page*
2005-11-18 [beautiful _ darkness]: I think you should dived this wiki into seprate wikis because it is getting big
2005-11-18 [Panda-monium]: it's not that big
2005-11-18 [beautiful _ darkness]: big as in lots of nonimages that take abit to load
2005-11-18 [Panda-monium]: ahh well :P
2005-11-18 [beautiful _ darkness]: hehe yea
2005-11-19 [Aradon Templar]: So? Dividing it into wikis would just make it more of a bother to find images. It's not like people are going to be viewing this page very frequently. It's a resource, not a chat room, so it just needs to be here, rather than be seen.
2005-11-19 [Jay Ladlehaus]: Wouldn't hurt to have divider and button subwikis though.
2005-11-21 [Dil*]: I second that :)
2005-11-21 [beautiful _ darkness]: trully it was just a suggestion and i hope i didnt offend you or anyone else
2005-11-21 [Panda-monium]: I doubt you did Autumn, no worries
2006-03-26 [Truth . Beauty . Love]: Is there any chance of having this as a nonimage? 
2006-03-26 [True, plain and simple]: That seems pretty OK. I'll deal with it later this afternoon. Thanks.
2006-03-27 [Truth . Beauty . Love]: Thank you.
2006-03-30 [ally]: Erh that image isn't an Elftown Graphic (yet) though.. still has to be approved..
2006-03-30 [Zab]: Does it matter? Must they be? O_o
2006-03-31 [ally]: Don't know.. would seem logic to me...
2006-03-31 [Zab]: *shrugs* I don't know either.
2006-05-01 [Truth . Beauty . Love]: It's been approved now. ^^
2006-10-30 [Sunrose]: These are good to add :)
2007-04-05 [Silver Moon]: are we allowed using them?
2007-04-05 [Linderel]: Erm, yes. That's why they're here. o_O
2007-04-05 [Silver Moon]: ok that was a stupid question, I just wanted to make sure I won't get in trouble with the gaurds
2007-04-05 [Silver Moon]: how do you get them to your pg?
2007-04-05 [Linderel]: Right-click, get the image address, copy it and paste in the <img:> tag.
2007-04-05 [Silver Moon]: k thnx
2007-05-09 [Aeolynn]: Is there a way the maker of the celtic symbols make them transparent?
2007-06-23 [Lothuriel]: if you go to [modigen]'s elftown graphics wiki, there are some transparent ones there. They won't count as a nonimage but they are very lovely.
2007-06-23 [Teufelsweib]: you should ask the maker of the celtic symbols himself if he wants to make them transparent.. :)
hmm... I'm wondering now actually myself aswell why there are non-transparan
2007-06-23 [Zab]: Is this even a part of EG, then? :P
2007-06-23 [Teufelsweib]: well... it's about images to put in your description, and it's an official wiki... so if it's not a subwiki of EG it sure does resemble it a lot =p
2007-06-23 [ally]: It's not part of EG, more like a private initiative.
2007-06-23 [Teufelsweib]: this is not a private initiative... these are images from EG that can be used for the whole of elftown without going over the Elftown Rules of an upload limit for your description O_o
2007-06-23 [ally]: Hedda's private initiative that is :P
2007-06-24 [Teufelsweib]: isn't Elftown Hedda's private initiative?=p=
2007-06-24 [Zab]: Yeah..but then we got around and stole it! >D
Err..O.o
2007-06-27 [Lothuriel]: I was going to be nice and fix some visible image tags for the nonimages wiki so that people could just copy and paste them. I clicked on the edit button so I could see the urls and the whole page screwed up!! The message at the top gave instructions on how to fix it but, the edit button no longer shows for me and I was afraid to touch anything!
Please help!!
2007-06-27 [Cia_mar]: loth what did you do? the edit button is not here at all for me either????
here is the previous page version that i found.... but i cannot edit either:
These images don't count as one of the 10 images you can have in your presentation (They will still count in the image-comment-
2007-06-27 [Lothuriel]: I am not sure! I clicked edit so that I could view the urls and the whole page screwed up, I got booted from ET and when I logged back on, this is what I found! I can't even view the previous versions. When I click "Previous Version" I get an error message that reads, "You don't have priv error. You don't have priv error. " I think it must be some sort of bug or something.
2007-06-27 [Cia_mar]: i dont know.. at least i was able to post the images in comments... no that it helps the page, but still...hmmm..
2007-06-27 [Cia_mar]: yea for hedda... glad that you fixed it!
2007-06-27 [Hedda]: The bug forum, for example.
This page isn't supposed to be editable by people who don't know what they are doing. If you add images here, you basically are granting yourself rights to use that image without limit in your presentation.
That's why only I (and wiki-bosses and guards) can edit the page now.
2007-06-27 [Linderel]: I spent about an hour fixing this and then it was fixed by you. Waaah. xD
2007-06-27 [Hedda]: Eh... OK, so let that be a lesson to do right instead of wrong. It took 10 seconds to fix. Press "edit", press "previous version", press "submit". Done!
Just like fixing any other wiki-page which is messed up.
2007-06-27 [Lothuriel]: Just for the record, I wasn't trying to edit the page or add to it, nothing like that. I could plainly see the edit button. I clicked on it only to be able to copy and paste the urls onto my notepad. When I clicked the edit button, that's when it all went to Hell. I didn't do anything after that because I was afraid to screw it up even more. I do apologize!
2007-06-27 [Sunrose]: It looks like you pressed one of the export html-buttons by accident, instead of the edit-button :)
2007-06-27 [Linderel]: Thanks for enlightening me, Hedda. I shall remember that. xD
2009-01-05 [Rook.]: May I use the music notes one on my page??
2009-01-05 [Hedda]: Yes, that's the point of these images. That is: To include them in your presentation, not to upload as your image.
2009-01-05 [Rook.]: alright. I wasn't sure... I'ma little slow on the uptake of these kind of things. ... Thanks to you!
2009-04-23 [Astrid.]: Is this a good one? How do you make it a non image...
2009-04-23 [Rook.]: I like that one, David
2009-04-24 [Jitter]: I like this, make more colours will you? :)
Very easy if you have Photoshop. I can make it in more colours if you want
2009-05-10 [hammersmashface]: can someone make a little purple butterfly please for me??
2009-05-11 [Teufelsweib]: 
here ya go
2009-05-11 [Teufelsweib]: though perhaps I think you have a better chance at Elftown Graphics and see if they have something there you like... if you want something of better quality.
2009-05-11 [hammersmashface]: no this is perfeckt thank you! i like is a little ummmmmm (is sloppy the word??)but please can you make me just one more...maybe a different shade of purple with "slightly" different shape?? only so i can put one before and after my name please thank you!!
2009-05-12 [Teufelsweib]: 
TADAAAA!!!!!
2009-05-12 [Janouk]: *claps* ;)
2009-05-12 [Teufelsweib]: thank ye thank ye *bows*
2009-05-12 [hammersmashface]: :D thank you soooooo much
2009-05-12 [Jitter]: I have several butterflies at jitter dividers although Vorkje's one is epic
2009-05-13 [Janouk]: Tsss, thunderstealer :p
2009-05-13 [Teufelsweib]: oh wow those butterflies from jitter really are awesome! *hinthint* xP
2009-05-13 [Jitter]: Yours is epic though
2009-05-13 [Teufelsweib]: really? then why don't you use them in your description aswell!! :P
2009-05-13 [Jitter]: I just did :P
2009-05-13 [Teufelsweib]: I love you so very much <3
2011-07-06 [Stephen]: Is this page ever going to be updated with more images? :P
2011-07-06 [iippo]: Heh. :3 Have you said somewhere which ones you would like added? :)
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